John Bend wrote:
This is alarming. All software that leaves here is virus checked. I can
only hope that this is a "mis-fire" in the anti-virus software.


Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Limited.

None wrote:
No Martin, I belive that it was genuine as I tried the download twice on
my main PC and once on my laptop with the same warning.

Around two hours later I decided to try again but this time my browser
reported an error in locating the file to download.

Quite some time later after reading the posting by Thierry HOLZ I tried
again and managed to download the Windows QM. Like Dawn I did not
realise that this was not the open source version. I must confess that I
felt a little annoyed that my time had been wasted in trying to obtain
and install a version that I could not effectively use. It may be that
this detail is explained somewhere on the web site. However the overall
message from this thread is that visitors to your site get a different
perception and leave with some degree of feeling misled. A astute
businessman would be grateful for this insight.

Whatever your comments I think the commercial / open source model is
amicably demonstrated by Sun Micro Systems. They are responsible for the
creating the Open Office (open source) project. The same high quality
software can be purchased in a fully packaged and fully supported manner
from Sun directly. In this way fettlers can have a free and unsupported
tinker with the product or purchase a copy with confidence that it is
fully supported. Sun make no secret of this duality and enjoy the
profits of their investment.

Then again jBase and EDP UniVision have a free Linux versions of their
product. We can download these versions to explore and develop on. They
are not for commercial use however. Free downloads, "non-commercial"
logon message, free registration for activation are all established
distribution tools these days. In fact I am evaluating SWT-Designer
right now and following the ease of getting, installing, activating and
using the product I will buy and promote it.

There is a truth as old as Pick itself in that no one ever bought "Pick"
then went shopping for applications. Multivalue databases are generally
sold on the back of applications. It makes sense then to get your MVDBMS
into the hands of application developers and promoters and win them
over. Once they are supporters of your product then they will become
your sales force too.

hth

John

"John Bend" <spam (AT) ITstuff (DOT) net> wrote

From the top of http://www.openqm.com/downloads.htm :
"Pre-built, fully supported, non-GPL commercial QM software for Windows,
Linux and FreeBSD"

Seems pretty clear to me.

me wrote:
Then you are a better man than I. --dawn

There is a pizza place in my southern California neighborhood here
called "Stuft Pizza". They don't serve "stuffed" pizzas (Chicago
style) they only serve deep-dish. The people there have no idea what
a stuffed pizza is, that's just the name. But knowing what a stuffed
pizza is, or so I think, I was attracted to walk in their door at one
point, expecting to find what was advertised in the name.

There's also a store around here called "Simply Lemonade" - I think
it's a clothing store and has nothing to do with beverages.

I honestly had no idea that you guys were consciously making this sort
of branding shift with QM, now aka OpenQM. Please note from Dawn's
response here that there is obvious confusion about why QM is being
called "open" even though it's not, in the sense of open source and in
the sense of free for use and development, as is OpenQM. I would have
understood a gradual shift in marketing from the name OpenQM to simply
QM, but not the other way around - we don't see OpenMySQL or
OpenPostgres.

When someone says "I'd like to try out OpenQM on Windows", it's
obvious that they are a newcomer, and I seriously doubt that they have
already absorbed the advanced "insider" notion that you guys are
referring to the commercial product as OpenQM even though the
downloads page still says [sic] "get QM here, get OpenQM there".
That's just one of those things that you expect people to know, and
I'm sure over time they will, but you also have to expect a lot of
confusion down the line.

Now that I understand how you're positioning this I'll refrain from
making such distinctions in the future. But I suspect someone else
will need to keep clarifying the nomenclature until "QM" is eventually
phased out completely - just as I'm sure I'm not the only person who
has walked into Stuft Pizza expecting something other than deep-dish,
or maybe had a Pavlovian response for what turned out to be dresses
and fashion accessories.

T

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