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Bob
 
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Default Just a raw beginner - 01-30-2011 , 09:55 PM






I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, when I
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 or 30.
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the file is
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicollies (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks

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Brian Speirs
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 02:31 AM






Hi,

Jon Sisk's tutorial deals with generic PICK (otherwise known as R83) and
gives the commands relevant for that flavour. UniVerse, and indeed most
of the multi-value products available today, can be switched to
different "flavours" depending on what your background is - and many
commands - including those to create files - are different depending on
the flavour.

For greatest compatibility, you should probably use the PICK flavour.
And then check the manual (I think there is a specific manual giving all
the PICK flavour commands) to get the correct syntax.

From memory, type 1 and type 19 files are directory files. Type 18 is
the standard data file type - although you can choose a different type.
Somewhere in the manuals, there is a table showing the file differences
but for the most part you can ignore them. I would recommend that you
have LONGNAMES set to ON - otherwise your filenames will be truncated -
CUSTOMERS will become something like CUSTU001. Internally, you will see
the correct file names, but from Windows Explorer they will be changed.

Check out the getting started books for OpenQM available from
www.rushflat.co.nz - OpenQM is close enough to UniVerse that most things
will be the same (but as with every flavour - it is the little
differences that are the most annoying).

Cheers,

Brian

On 31/01/2011 3:55 a.m., Bob wrote:
Quote:
I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, when I
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 or 30.
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the file is
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicollies (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks

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Robert Joslyn
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 05:33 AM



On Jan 31, 3:31*am, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

Jon Sisk's tutorial deals with generic PICK (otherwise known as R83) and
gives the commands relevant for that flavour. UniVerse, and indeed most
of the multi-value products available today, can be switched to
different "flavours" depending on what your background is - and many
commands - including those to create files - are different depending on
the flavour.

For greatest compatibility, you should probably use the PICK flavour.
And then check the manual (I think there is a specific manual giving all
the PICK flavour commands) to get the correct syntax.

*From memory, type 1 and type 19 files are directory files. Type 18 is
the standard data file type - although you can choose a different type.
Somewhere in the manuals, there is a table showing the file differences
but for the most part you can ignore them. I would recommend that you
have LONGNAMES set to ON - otherwise your filenames will be truncated -
CUSTOMERS will become something like CUSTU001. Internally, you will see
the correct file names, but from Windows Explorer they will be changed.

Check out the getting started books for OpenQM available fromwww.rushflat..co.nz- OpenQM is close enough to UniVerse that most things
will be the same (but as with every flavour - it is the little
differences that are the most annoying).

Cheers,

Brian

On 31/01/2011 3:55 a.m., Bob wrote:



I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, when I
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 *or 30..
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the file is
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicoll... (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Also OpenQM is currently and actively supported, is considerably less
expensive than others if you decide to do something serious, and is
very easy to use. All opinions, of course.

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Bob
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 08:28 AM



On Jan 31, 2:31*am, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

Jon Sisk's tutorial deals with generic PICK (otherwise known as R83) and
gives the commands relevant for that flavour. UniVerse, and indeed most
of the multi-value products available today, can be switched to
different "flavours" depending on what your background is - and many
commands - including those to create files - are different depending on
the flavour.

For greatest compatibility, you should probably use the PICK flavour.
And then check the manual (I think there is a specific manual giving all
the PICK flavour commands) to get the correct syntax.

*From memory, type 1 and type 19 files are directory files. Type 18 is
the standard data file type - although you can choose a different type.
Somewhere in the manuals, there is a table showing the file differences
but for the most part you can ignore them. I would recommend that you
have LONGNAMES set to ON - otherwise your filenames will be truncated -
CUSTOMERS will become something like CUSTU001. Internally, you will see
the correct file names, but from Windows Explorer they will be changed.

Check out the getting started books for OpenQM available fromwww.rushflat..co.nz- OpenQM is close enough to UniVerse that most things
will be the same (but as with every flavour - it is the little
differences that are the most annoying).

Cheers,

Brian

On 31/01/2011 3:55 a.m., Bob wrote:

I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, when I
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 *or 30..
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the file is
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicoll... (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks
Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments

Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now

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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 08:46 AM



On Jan 31, 9:28*am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 31, 2:31*am, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:





Hi,

Jon Sisk's tutorial deals with generic PICK (otherwise known as R83) and
gives the commands relevant for that flavour. UniVerse, and indeed most
of the multi-value products available today, can be switched to
different "flavours" depending on what your background is - and many
commands - including those to create files - are different depending on
the flavour.

For greatest compatibility, you should probably use the PICK flavour.
And then check the manual (I think there is a specific manual giving all
the PICK flavour commands) to get the correct syntax.

*From memory, type 1 and type 19 files are directory files. Type 18 is
the standard data file type - although you can choose a different type.
Somewhere in the manuals, there is a table showing the file differences
but for the most part you can ignore them. I would recommend that you
have LONGNAMES set to ON - otherwise your filenames will be truncated -
CUSTOMERS will become something like CUSTU001. Internally, you will see
the correct file names, but from Windows Explorer they will be changed.

Check out the getting started books for OpenQM available fromwww.rushflat.co.nz-OpenQM is close enough to UniVerse that most things
will be the same (but as with every flavour - it is the little
differences that are the most annoying).

Cheers,

Brian

On 31/01/2011 3:55 a.m., Bob wrote:

I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, when I
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 *or 30.
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the file is
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicoll... (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks

Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments

Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text-

- Show quoted text -
If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have
access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system.

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Bob
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 09:11 AM



On Jan 31, 8:46*am, Robert Joslyn <bobjoslyn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 31, 9:28*am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



On Jan 31, 2:31*am, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi,

Jon Sisk's tutorial deals with generic PICK (otherwise known as R83) and
gives the commands relevant for that flavour. UniVerse, and indeed most
of the multi-value products available today, can be switched to
different "flavours" depending on what your background is - and many
commands - including those to create files - are different depending on
the flavour.

For greatest compatibility, you should probably use the PICK flavour.
And then check the manual (I think there is a specific manual giving all
the PICK flavour commands) to get the correct syntax.

*From memory, type 1 and type 19 files are directory files. Type 18is
the standard data file type - although you can choose a different type.
Somewhere in the manuals, there is a table showing the file differences
but for the most part you can ignore them. I would recommend that you
have LONGNAMES set to ON - otherwise your filenames will be truncated-
CUSTOMERS will become something like CUSTU001. Internally, you will see
the correct file names, but from Windows Explorer they will be changed.

Check out the getting started books for OpenQM available fromwww.rushflat.co.nz-OpenQMis close enough to UniVerse that most things
will be the same (but as with every flavour - it is the little
differences that are the most annoying).

Cheers,

Brian

On 31/01/2011 3:55 a.m., Bob wrote:

I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, when I
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 *or 30.
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the file is
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicoll... (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks

Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments

Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have
access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system.
Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control
Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I
get access to the manual?
And how do I do that?

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eppick77
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 11:03 AM



On Jan 31, 10:11*am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 31, 8:46*am, Robert Joslyn <bobjoslyn... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



On Jan 31, 9:28*am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 31, 2:31*am, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi,

Jon Sisk's tutorial deals with generic PICK (otherwise known as R83) and
gives the commands relevant for that flavour. UniVerse, and indeed most
of the multi-value products available today, can be switched to
different "flavours" depending on what your background is - and many
commands - including those to create files - are different depending on
the flavour.

For greatest compatibility, you should probably use the PICK flavour.
And then check the manual (I think there is a specific manual giving all
the PICK flavour commands) to get the correct syntax.

*From memory, type 1 and type 19 files are directory files. Type 18 is
the standard data file type - although you can choose a different type.
Somewhere in the manuals, there is a table showing the file differences
but for the most part you can ignore them. I would recommend that you
have LONGNAMES set to ON - otherwise your filenames will be truncated -
CUSTOMERS will become something like CUSTU001. Internally, you willsee
the correct file names, but from Windows Explorer they will be changed.

Check out the getting started books for OpenQM available fromwww.rushflat.co.nz-OpenQMisclose enough to UniVerse that most things
will be the same (but as with every flavour - it is the little
differences that are the most annoying).

Cheers,

Brian

On 31/01/2011 3:55 a.m., Bob wrote:

I've just started to play with the UniVerse Personal Edition for
Windows and I'm already having these problems.

I'm using Jonathan Sisk's tutorial. He has the format for creating a
file as "CREATE-FILE BP 11,1 29,1", but when I do that, the system
tells me that I need a file type. So I enter '1' and BP is created.
"CREATE-FILE BP 1 11,1 29,1" works for me too. Incidentally, whenI
put in other numbers besides '1' for file type, it's invalid though
the warning text tells me that the valid range is 1 - 19 or 25 *or 30.
So does '1' specify a directory or folder file? And when the fileis
created, I'm told that D_BP is Type 3, Modulo 1, Separation 2. Now,
that doesn't sound right.

Also, Sisk tells me to "ED MD BP" so I can enable compilation. But
that command doesn't work at all, and it turns out that I can compile
anyhow.

I don't check my gmail acct very much, so please send notice to
iiicoll... (AT) mchsi (DOT) com

Thanks

Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments

Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have
access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system.

Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control
Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I
get access to the manual?
And how do I do that?
Going from memory, there is a gui that allows you to create accounts.
One of the questions that you can click on is which flavor to set it
up for.

Eugene

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Brian Speirs
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 02:21 PM



Hi Bob,

Let's start from the beginning ... The following explanations use UV
10.1 and some of the names may have changed with the transition to
Rocket Software rather than IBM.

Start > Programs > IBM U2 > UniAdmin > UniAdmin starts the
administration utility. You may need to set up the server first using
Connect > New. Use 127.0.0.1 for the server name, define it as UniVerse
and then click on Register.

Then double-click on the server in the list of servers, enter your
username and password, and you should see the tree of actions available
within the administrator.

Double-click on accounts, and you should open a window showing the
accounts already defined on the system. Select an account, and click on
the detail button. That will show (amongst other things) what flavour
the account is. You can't change it here - you set it when you create
the account (but I'm sure there is some way to change it after the
creation).

I'd suggest creating a new account set to PICK flavour so you can try that.

User manuals should be at Start > Programs > IBM U2 > ??? - if you've
installed them. If you haven't got them, they are available at:
http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/res...urces/universe

You mention UniVerse Shell and UniVerse control panel. UniVerse control
panel literally just starts and stops the UniVerse services - nothing
else. UniVerse Shell is extremely limited - it is intended for basic
administrative tasks only, and not as a real client. You really need
other client software.

The basic choice is to use Dynamic Connect (part of the UniVerse clients
package), but you would be better off downloading a copy of AccuTerm and
requesting a personal licence. You'll then need to configure whichever
client (terminal emulator) you use to talk to the UniVerse server. Check
which port the UVTelnet server is using in UniAdmin (under Network
Services) and configure your client to use that port.

After that, you should be able to log onto the UniVerse account that you
created using UniAdmin.

The alternative way to create an account (I think) is simply to create a
folder with Windows Explorer, and then in UV: LOGTO folderlocation

UniVerse should then prompt you along the lines of: This location is not
set up as a UV account. Do you want to create an account? And it will
probably prompt you for the flavour as well.

Hopefully, that will get you started. The OpenQM books I referred you to
earlier will step you through much of this basic installation and much
of that is relevant to UniVerse.

Cheers,

Brian

PS I'm from NZ but live in the UK
PPS O'Reilly have a PICK book??? Does anyone here know that?

On 31/01/2011 3:11 p.m., Bob wrote:
Quote:
Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have
access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system.

Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control
Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I
get access to the manual?
And how do I do that?

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Bob
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 10:53 PM



On Jan 31, 2:21*pm, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Bob,

Let's start from the beginning ... The following explanations use UV
10.1 and some of the names may have changed with the transition to
Rocket Software rather than IBM.

Start > Programs > IBM U2 > UniAdmin > UniAdmin starts the
administration utility. You may need to set up the server first using
Connect > New. Use 127.0.0.1 for the server name, define it as UniVerse
and then click on Register.

Then double-click on the server in the list of servers, enter your
username and password, and you should see the tree of actions available
within the administrator.

Double-click on accounts, and you should open a window showing the
accounts already defined on the system. Select an account, and click on
the detail button. That will show (amongst other things) what flavour
the account is. You can't change it here - you set it when you create
the account (but I'm sure there is some way to change it after the
creation).

I'd suggest creating a new account set to PICK flavour so you can try that.

User manuals should be at Start > Programs > IBM U2 > ??? - if you've
installed them. If you haven't got them, they are available at:http://www..rocketsoftware.com/u2/re...urces/universe

You mention UniVerse Shell and UniVerse control panel. UniVerse control
panel literally just starts and stops the UniVerse services - nothing
else. UniVerse Shell is extremely limited - it is intended for basic
administrative tasks only, and not as a real client. You really need
other client software.

The basic choice is to use Dynamic Connect (part of the UniVerse clients
package), but you would be better off downloading a copy of AccuTerm and
requesting a personal licence. You'll then need to configure whichever
client (terminal emulator) you use to talk to the UniVerse server. Check
which port the UVTelnet server is using in UniAdmin (under Network
Services) and configure your client to use that port.

After that, you should be able to log onto the UniVerse account that you
created using UniAdmin.

The alternative way to create an account (I think) is simply to create a
folder with Windows Explorer, and then in UV: LOGTO folderlocation

UniVerse should then prompt you along the lines of: This location is not
set up as a UV account. Do you want to create an account? And it will
probably prompt you for the flavour as well.

Hopefully, that will get you started. The OpenQM books I referred you to
earlier will step you through much of this basic installation and much
of that is relevant to UniVerse.

Cheers,

Brian

PS I'm from NZ but live in the UK
PPS O'Reilly have a PICK book??? Does anyone here know that?

On 31/01/2011 3:11 p.m., Bob wrote:

Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have
access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system..

Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control
Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I
get access to the manual?
And how do I do that?
Brian, thanks very much for your help

I found one problem - I installed the wrong app. I installed UniVerse
Personal Edition, which I found to be rather minimal. I've now
installed UniVerse Clients for Windows, so now I'm at least seeing the
components you guys have been talking about. Here's the next hurdle -
I've set up and registered the server but have no idea what admin
username (Administrator?) or password is.

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Bob
 
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Default Re: Just a raw beginner - 01-31-2011 , 11:11 PM



On Jan 31, 2:21*pm, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Bob,

Let's start from the beginning ... The following explanations use UV
10.1 and some of the names may have changed with the transition to
Rocket Software rather than IBM.

Start > Programs > IBM U2 > UniAdmin > UniAdmin starts the
administration utility. You may need to set up the server first using
Connect > New. Use 127.0.0.1 for the server name, define it as UniVerse
and then click on Register.

Then double-click on the server in the list of servers, enter your
username and password, and you should see the tree of actions available
within the administrator.

Double-click on accounts, and you should open a window showing the
accounts already defined on the system. Select an account, and click on
the detail button. That will show (amongst other things) what flavour
the account is. You can't change it here - you set it when you create
the account (but I'm sure there is some way to change it after the
creation).

I'd suggest creating a new account set to PICK flavour so you can try that.

User manuals should be at Start > Programs > IBM U2 > ??? - if you've
installed them. If you haven't got them, they are available at:http://www..rocketsoftware.com/u2/re...urces/universe

You mention UniVerse Shell and UniVerse control panel. UniVerse control
panel literally just starts and stops the UniVerse services - nothing
else. UniVerse Shell is extremely limited - it is intended for basic
administrative tasks only, and not as a real client. You really need
other client software.

The basic choice is to use Dynamic Connect (part of the UniVerse clients
package), but you would be better off downloading a copy of AccuTerm and
requesting a personal licence. You'll then need to configure whichever
client (terminal emulator) you use to talk to the UniVerse server. Check
which port the UVTelnet server is using in UniAdmin (under Network
Services) and configure your client to use that port.

After that, you should be able to log onto the UniVerse account that you
created using UniAdmin.

The alternative way to create an account (I think) is simply to create a
folder with Windows Explorer, and then in UV: LOGTO folderlocation

UniVerse should then prompt you along the lines of: This location is not
set up as a UV account. Do you want to create an account? And it will
probably prompt you for the flavour as well.

Hopefully, that will get you started. The OpenQM books I referred you to
earlier will step you through much of this basic installation and much
of that is relevant to UniVerse.

Cheers,

Brian

PS I'm from NZ but live in the UK
PPS O'Reilly have a PICK book??? Does anyone here know that?

On 31/01/2011 3:11 p.m., Bob wrote:

Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably
will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/
Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are
you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers
have confirmed what I was suspecting however.

In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the
flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a
'man' command?
My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the
O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text -

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If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have
access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system..

Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control
Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I
get access to the manual?
And how do I do that?
Brian, thanks very much for your help

I found one problem - I installed the wrong app. I installed UniVerse
Personal Edition, which I found to be rather minimal. I've now
installed UniVerse Clients for Windows, so now I'm at least seeing the
components you guys have been talking about. Here's the next hurdle -
I've set up and registered the server but have no idea what admin
username (Administrator?) or password is.

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