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Hi Bob, Let's start from the beginning ... The following explanations use UV 10.1 and some of the names may have changed with the transition to Rocket Software rather than IBM. Start > Programs > IBM U2 > UniAdmin > UniAdmin starts the administration utility. You may need to set up the server first using Connect > New. Use 127.0.0.1 for the server name, define it as UniVerse and then click on Register. Then double-click on the server in the list of servers, enter your username and password, and you should see the tree of actions available within the administrator. Double-click on accounts, and you should open a window showing the accounts already defined on the system. Select an account, and click on the detail button. That will show (amongst other things) what flavour the account is. You can't change it here - you set it when you create the account (but I'm sure there is some way to change it after the creation). I'd suggest creating a new account set to PICK flavour so you can try that. User manuals should be at Start > Programs > IBM U2 > ??? - if you've installed them. If you haven't got them, they are available at:http://www..rocketsoftware.com/u2/re...urces/universe You mention UniVerse Shell and UniVerse control panel. UniVerse control panel literally just starts and stops the UniVerse services - nothing else. UniVerse Shell is extremely limited - it is intended for basic administrative tasks only, and not as a real client. You really need other client software. The basic choice is to use Dynamic Connect (part of the UniVerse clients package), but you would be better off downloading a copy of AccuTerm and requesting a personal licence. You'll then need to configure whichever client (terminal emulator) you use to talk to the UniVerse server. Check which port the UVTelnet server is using in UniAdmin (under Network Services) and configure your client to use that port. After that, you should be able to log onto the UniVerse account that you created using UniAdmin. The alternative way to create an account (I think) is simply to create a folder with Windows Explorer, and then in UV: LOGTO folderlocation UniVerse should then prompt you along the lines of: This location is not set up as a UV account. Do you want to create an account? And it will probably prompt you for the flavour as well. Hopefully, that will get you started. The OpenQM books I referred you to earlier will step you through much of this basic installation and much of that is relevant to UniVerse. Cheers, Brian PS I'm from NZ but live in the UK PPS O'Reilly have a PICK book??? Does anyone here know that? On 31/01/2011 3:11 p.m., Bob wrote: Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/ Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers have confirmed what I was suspecting however. In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something like a 'man' command? My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system.. Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I get access to the manual? And how do I do that? |
I found one problem - I installed the wrong app. I installed UniVerse
Personal Edition, which I found to be rather minimal. I've now
installed UniVerse Clients for Windows, so now I'm at least seeing the
components you guys have been talking about. Here's the next hurdle -
I've set up and registered the server but have no idea what admin
username (Administrator?) or password is.
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On Jan 31, 2:21*pm, Brian Speirs <bs... (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Bob, Let's start from the beginning ... The following explanations use UV 10.1 and some of the names may have changed with the transition to Rocket Software rather than IBM. Start > Programs > IBM U2 > UniAdmin > UniAdmin starts the administration utility. You may need to set up the server first using Connect > New. Use 127.0.0.1 for the server name, define it as UniVerse and then click on Register. Then double-click on the server in the list of servers, enter your username and password, and you should see the tree of actions available within the administrator. Double-click on accounts, and you should open a window showing the accounts already defined on the system. Select an account, and click on the detail button. That will show (amongst other things) what flavour the account is. You can't change it here - you set it when you create the account (but I'm sure there is some way to change it after the creation). I'd suggest creating a new account set to PICK flavour so you can try that. User manuals should be at Start > Programs > IBM U2 > ??? - if you've installed them. If you haven't got them, they are available at:http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/res...urces/universe You mention UniVerse Shell and UniVerse control panel. UniVerse control panel literally just starts and stops the UniVerse services - nothing else. UniVerse Shell is extremely limited - it is intended for basic administrative tasks only, and not as a real client. You really need other client software. The basic choice is to use Dynamic Connect (part of the UniVerse clients package), but you would be better off downloading a copy of AccuTerm and requesting a personal licence. You'll then need to configure whichever client (terminal emulator) you use to talk to the UniVerse server. Check which port the UVTelnet server is using in UniAdmin (under Network Services) and configure your client to use that port. After that, you should be able to log onto the UniVerse account that you created using UniAdmin. The alternative way to create an account (I think) is simply to create a folder with Windows Explorer, and then in UV: LOGTO folderlocation UniVerse should then prompt you along the lines of: This location is not set up as a UV account. Do you want to create an account? And it will probably prompt you for the flavour as well. Hopefully, that will get you started. The OpenQM books I referred you to earlier will step you through much of this basic installation and much of that is relevant to UniVerse. Cheers, Brian PS I'm from NZ but live in the UK PPS O'Reilly have a PICK book??? Does anyone here know that? On 31/01/2011 3:11 p.m., Bob wrote: Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/ Universe/Basic. The flavor of Pick is out of my control. (Brian, are you from NZ or England?, I noticed you used 'flavour'). Your answers have confirmed what I was suspecting however. In my current Pick installation, you say there's a command to set the flavor? Is there a way to list all commands and then something likea 'man' command? My only reference is the Sisk tutorial though I have bought the O'Reilly Pick book which should be arriving any day now- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you have on line access to the Universe Account then you have access to the current manual and a more or less incomplete Help system. Robert, I have available only Universe Shell and Universe Control Panel. UCP has Universe Resource Service. Is it through the URS that I get access to the manual? And how do I do that? Brian, thanks very much for your help I found one problem - I installed the wrong app. I installed UniVerse Personal Edition, which I found to be rather minimal. I've now installed UniVerse Clients for Windows, so now I'm at least seeing the components you guys have been talking about. Here's the next hurdle - I've set up and registered the server but have no idea what admin username (Administrator?) or password is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
username & password known to your windows PC
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Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/ Universe/Basic. |
No one else commented on this part.
You are interviewing for a job that requires Pick BASIC
You mean, you are interviewing for a job as a programmer or analyst ?
But you don't actually know Pick ?
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On Jan 31, 6:28 am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/ Universe/Basic. |
"wjhonson" <wjhonson (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote
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No one else commented on this part. You are interviewing for a job that requires Pick BASIC You mean, you are interviewing for a job as a programmer or analyst ? But you don't actually know Pick ? |
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frosty
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On Jan 31, 6:28 am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/ Universe/Basic. "wjhonson" <wjhon... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:03472ea8-0784-400e-bc60-bc5403885e58 (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com... No one else commented on this part. You are interviewing for a job that requires Pick BASIC You mean, you are interviewing for a job as a programmer or analyst ? But you don't actually know Pick ? I'll second that "More Power To You!" -- frosty |
with the hiring manager and I'm scheduled for an onsite interview
Thursday. The hiring mgr does know that I'm new to Pick, but I guess
he can see that I may learn fast.
Back to previous question, I've tried my PC user acct and admin acct
names, but didn't work. The manager thought it was 'UV' for username,
couldn't remember password, but I get a 'invalid username' error still
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On Jan 31, 6:28 am, Bob <iiicoll... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Brian and Robert, thanks for your comments Here's the context of my explorations into Pick/Universe. I'm probably will be interviewed for a position that advertised as using Pick/ Universe/Basic. "wjhonson" <wjhon... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:03472ea8-0784-400e-bc60-bc5403885e58 (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com... No one else commented on this part. You are interviewing for a job that requires Pick BASIC You mean, you are interviewing for a job as a programmer or analyst ? But you don't actually know Pick ? I'll second that "More Power To You!" -- frosty |
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Back to previous question, I've tried my PC user acct and admin acct names, but didn't work. The manager thought it was 'UV' for username, couldn't remember password, but I get a 'invalid username' error still |
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Once again, the basic stuff ... Do you have administrative rights for your account? I assume so as you are installing programs. Is your account password protected? If not, then put a password on the account. The logon for UV (both in UniAdmin and when you come to log onto a UV account) should simply be your Windows username and password. I don't know if Windows Vista or 7 breaks any of this - I've only installed on W2K and XP. Another thing to check is that your firewall is letting you communicate on port 23 (UVTelnet is probably set to that by default) and that the firewall is not actively blocking the server. Having just had a quick look at the UV Installation guide, make sure that your UV services are running too! However, I guess an "invalid username" error suggests that that is the case <g>. Cheers, Brian On 1/02/2011 8:09 p.m., Bob wrote: Back to previous question, I've tried my PC user acct and admin acct names, but didn't work. The manager thought it was 'UV' for username, couldn't remember password, but I get a 'invalid username' error still |
I did get UniAdmin going and created a personal account. BTW, the
flavors available are 'IDEAL', "INFORMATION', 'PIOPEN', 'PICK',
'REALITY', and 'IN2'
What does each mean? AH, I selected 'PICK'
My question - I can't find Dynamic Connect. I looked in UniAdmin, U2
Basic Developer Toolkit and in the Universe user ref. I'm guessing
(hoping) it's in the toolkit somewhere
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My question - I can't find Dynamic Connect. I looked in UniAdmin, U2 Basic Developer Toolkit and in the Universe user ref. I'm guessing (hoping) it's in the toolkit somewhere |
http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/products/client-tools
http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/resources/downloads
Other options would be:
Use the windows telnet client
Use Wintegrate (from Rocket)
Use SB/XA (from Rocket)
Use AccuTerm (www.asent.com)
Cheers,
Brian
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