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Default IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 10:14 AM






Although this posting is not MV-specific, in my case, it is very much
an item of need for me to maintina my MV system "from afar". I have
a SonicWALL VPN into our environemnt, and I can connect to that VPN
using IP address in the URL of my browser. All of the systems that I
need to connect to have a selection of services which include ActiveX,
Java, VNC (I don't believe that's the product VNC, rather, the
service, VNC), or Citrix. However, since iOS doesn't seem to like
RDP through either ActiveX or Java, I am locked out from getting past
the selection of available systems.

I have found iOS apps that connect RDP, but they will not work with
ActiveX or Java. ANd, the product, VNC, is also available as an iOS
app, but I haven't gotten my hands around that one yet.

What experiences (hopefully, successful) have CDP members foudn for
their mobile computing, using IPad or IPhone?

Thanks, in advance.
Jim Cronin
Kittery Trading Post

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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 10:45 AM






Hi Jim,

Are you talking about your computing needs in general, or just getting
to your MultiValue data and the ability to maintain your MultiValue
based application via your iPad and iPhone?

The former is a large topic and I’d need some specifics. However, the
later could easily be achieved through O4W, although you’d need to
move to a compatible backend (OI’s Linear Hash, U2 or D3 (QM and
Univision coming soon) and build the web pages using the wizards in
O4w or Basic+ for more advanced forms and business logic.

I might have misunderstood your requirement, so I’ll leave it at that
for now. Please clarify and I’ll go more into O4W either here or
offline as appropriate.

M.

www.martynphillips.tel
http://www.revsoft.co.uk/openinsight_for_the_web.aspx

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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 10:57 AM



On Aug 23, 11:45*am, Martyn Phillips <m... (AT) revsoft (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Jim,

Are you talking about your computing needs in general, or just getting
to your MultiValue data and the ability to maintain your MultiValue
based application via your iPad and iPhone?

The former is a large topic and I’d need some specifics. *However, the
later could easily be achieved through O4W, although you’d need to
move to a compatible backend (OI’s Linear Hash, U2 or D3 (QM and
Univision coming soon) and build the web pages using the wizards in
O4w or Basic+ for more advanced forms and business logic.

I might have misunderstood your requirement, so I’ll leave it at that
for now. *Please clarify and I’ll go more into O4W either here or
offline as appropriate.

M.

http://www.martynphillips.telhttp://...r_the_web.aspx
Hi, Martin:

Sorry for any misunderstanding. What I am trying to do is, first,
connect to my desktop, via iPad or iPhone. From there, I can
navigate amongst the other systems (Windows servers) that I have to
maintain, as well as my Reality database. It is not just MV
maintenance that I have to have available. The primary objective for
me is to be able to problem-solve/troubleshoot from a mobile device.
Once I am connected to my desktop, I can then use the RDP on my
desktop to get to the other servers. Currently, I have to have my
laptop with me, and a Wi-Fi connection, which allows me to connect
through our VPN, using an ActiveX Sonicwall service. As stated,
ActiveX and Java do not seem to be available for mobile computing.
However, I have to believe there are some people who are using their
mobile devices to connect to desktops, etc.

Thanks for your reply.

Jim

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Martyn Phillips
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 12:10 PM



I have not gone that far with my iPad and iPhone. It will be
interesting to see what other people suggest here. It might also be
worth posting this to LinkedIn and other wider forums as a general
request and see what Oracle, Microsoft and other developers are
doing. I'll post back here if I learn anything.

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Ed Sheehan
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 03:29 PM



I use Team Viewer, available for free in the app store. The desktop version
is at www.teamviewer.com. I can connect from anywhere, wifi or phone
network, and get to my desktop at work, from where I can RDP to other
servers. I'm running XP Pro on my workstation, and teamviewer just sits in
the tray and waits for a connection, which somehow burrows past our
firewall. I have two monitors, and can switch between the two. Works well.

Ed


"JJCSR" <JCronin (AT) ktp (DOT) com> wrote

On Aug 23, 11:45 am, Martyn Phillips <m... (AT) revsoft (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Jim,

Are you talking about your computing needs in general, or just getting
to your MultiValue data and the ability to maintain your MultiValue
based application via your iPad and iPhone?

The former is a large topic and I’d need some specifics. However, the
later could easily be achieved through O4W, although you’d need to
move to a compatible backend (OI’s Linear Hash, U2 or D3 (QM and
Univision coming soon) and build the web pages using the wizards in
O4w or Basic+ for more advanced forms and business logic.

I might have misunderstood your requirement, so I’ll leave it at that
for now. Please clarify and I’ll go more into O4W either here or
offline as appropriate.

M.

http://www.martynphillips.telhttp://...r_the_web.aspx
Hi, Martin:

Sorry for any misunderstanding. What I am trying to do is, first,
connect to my desktop, via iPad or iPhone. From there, I can
navigate amongst the other systems (Windows servers) that I have to
maintain, as well as my Reality database. It is not just MV
maintenance that I have to have available. The primary objective for
me is to be able to problem-solve/troubleshoot from a mobile device.
Once I am connected to my desktop, I can then use the RDP on my
desktop to get to the other servers. Currently, I have to have my
laptop with me, and a Wi-Fi connection, which allows me to connect
through our VPN, using an ActiveX Sonicwall service. As stated,
ActiveX and Java do not seem to be available for mobile computing.
However, I have to believe there are some people who are using their
mobile devices to connect to desktops, etc.

Thanks for your reply.

Jim

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JJCSR
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 03:47 PM



On Aug 23, 4:29*pm, "Ed Sheehan" <NOedsS... (AT) xmission (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
I use Team Viewer, available for free in the app store. The desktop version
is atwww.teamviewer.com. I can connect from anywhere, wifi or phone
network, and get to my desktop at work, from where I can RDP to other
servers. I'm running XP Pro on my workstation, and teamviewer just sits in
the tray and waits for a connection, which somehow burrows past our
firewall. I have two monitors, and can switch between the two. Works well..

Ed

Ed:

Thanks very much for the tip. I will check it out and let you know
my experience. The major hurdle, thus far, seems to be that I must
first come through our VPN.


Jim

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Ross Ferris
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-23-2011 , 11:00 PM



As Ed has said, TeamViewer will allow connectivity to your desktop (or
a windows server? Also available for Android in Beta) .... don't
understand the "drama" with ActiveX/Java in terms of RDP though ....
these shouldn't factor into the equation?!?

I use iRdesktop to establish RDP connections from my iPhone, and have
clients that also use this on iPads --> perhaps your "problem" is that
you are trying to use the "standard" windows web client on an SBS
server to gain access??

I just establish a pptp VPN from the iPhone (there is also a Cisco
client if you need to punch through a Cisco firewall), and then
directly connect with RDP, rather than going through a web gateway -
works well .... additional screen real estate of an iPad would be
nice, but difficult to stuff in my pocket :-)

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Dave Goldfinch
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-24-2011 , 03:14 AM



On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:00:28 -0700 (PDT), Ross Ferris
<rossf (AT) stamina (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Quote:
As Ed has said, TeamViewer will allow connectivity to your desktop (or
a windows server? Also available for Android in Beta) .... don't
understand the "drama" with ActiveX/Java in terms of RDP though ....
these shouldn't factor into the equation?!?

I use iRdesktop to establish RDP connections from my iPhone, and have
clients that also use this on iPads --> perhaps your "problem" is that
you are trying to use the "standard" windows web client on an SBS
server to gain access??

I just establish a pptp VPN from the iPhone (there is also a Cisco
client if you need to punch through a Cisco firewall), and then
directly connect with RDP, rather than going through a web gateway -
works well .... additional screen real estate of an iPad would be
nice, but difficult to stuff in my pocket :-)

From what I have read in this thread, the problem is that there does
not appear to be a Sonic Wall client for the iThing.

Several of our clients insist on running this software & IMHO it is a
PITA. However it aparently gives them a feeling of security ...

YMMV

Dave

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Ross Ferris
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-24-2011 , 05:29 AM



On Aug 24, 6:14*pm, Dave Goldfinch <daveg5... (AT) NotCoolMail (DOT) invalid>
wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:00:28 -0700 (PDT), Ross Ferris





ro... (AT) stamina (DOT) com.au> wrote:
As Ed has said, TeamViewer will allow connectivity to your desktop (or
a windows server? Also available for Android in Beta) *.... don't
understand the "drama" with ActiveX/Java in terms of RDP though ....
these shouldn't factor into the equation?!?

I use iRdesktop to establish RDP connections from my iPhone, and have
clients that also use this on iPads --> perhaps your "problem" is that
you are trying to use the "standard" windows web client on an SBS
server to gain access??

I just establish a pptp VPN from the iPhone (there is also a Cisco
client if you need to punch through a Cisco firewall), and then
directly connect with RDP, rather than going through a web gateway -
works well .... additional screen real estate of an iPad would be
nice, but difficult to stuff in my pocket :-)

From what I have read in this thread, the problem is that there does
not appear to be a Sonic Wall client for the iThing.

Several of our clients insist on running this software & IMHO it is a
PITA. However it aparently gives them a feeling of security ...

YMMV

Dave- Hide quoted text -

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Hope it isn't THAT easy ... plenty of google hits --> this one seems
straight forward http://www.solved.it/vpn_l2tp_iphone...ch_apple_1.php

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Dave Goldfinch
 
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Default Re: IPhone / IPad connections to desktops - 08-24-2011 , 08:39 AM



On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:29:37 -0700 (PDT), Ross Ferris
<rossf (AT) stamina (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Quote:
On Aug 24, 6:14*pm, Dave Goldfinch <daveg5... (AT) NotCoolMail (DOT) invalid
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:00:28 -0700 (PDT), Ross Ferris





ro... (AT) stamina (DOT) com.au> wrote:
As Ed has said, TeamViewer will allow connectivity to your desktop (or
a windows server? Also available for Android in Beta) *.... don't
understand the "drama" with ActiveX/Java in terms of RDP though ....
these shouldn't factor into the equation?!?

I use iRdesktop to establish RDP connections from my iPhone, and have
clients that also use this on iPads --> perhaps your "problem" is that
you are trying to use the "standard" windows web client on an SBS
server to gain access??

I just establish a pptp VPN from the iPhone (there is also a Cisco
client if you need to punch through a Cisco firewall), and then
directly connect with RDP, rather than going through a web gateway -
works well .... additional screen real estate of an iPad would be
nice, but difficult to stuff in my pocket :-)

From what I have read in this thread, the problem is that there does
not appear to be a Sonic Wall client for the iThing.

Several of our clients insist on running this software & IMHO it is a
PITA. However it aparently gives them a feeling of security ...

YMMV

Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hope it isn't THAT easy ... plenty of google hits --> this one seems
straight forward http://www.solved.it/vpn_l2tp_iphone...ch_apple_1.php
I think you have got it in one!

However, there may be more to it ...

Dave

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