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Default Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-05-2007 , 02:55 PM






Currently we have to go thru and get a list of ports for the users
manuallyy, kill them off and then if they were in the spooler we have
to kill off via another number. The system (EMC) used to be shared by
several businesses and has dwindled down to just us now and we don't
know much about the pick language. But we would like to script the
kill process for our claims processors because the rolling blackouts
we get in this building our frequent and causes the clients to
shutdown.

Thanks,
Phil


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Default Re: Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-05-2007 , 05:24 PM






Hi
Buy an uninterruptible power supply for the processor. A much better
solution.
Peter McMurray
"Phillip" <Phillip.Putzback (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Currently we have to go thru and get a list of ports for the users
manuallyy, kill them off and then if they were in the spooler we have
to kill off via another number. The system (EMC) used to be shared by
several businesses and has dwindled down to just us now and we don't
know much about the pick language. But we would like to script the
kill process for our claims processors because the rolling blackouts
we get in this building our frequent and causes the clients to
shutdown.

Thanks,
Phil




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Default Re: Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-06-2007 , 04:55 AM



"Phillip" wrote:
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Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system
Sure! All the time. This works from any MV environment:
1) Get two X10 analog relay switches.
2) Connect one to a gas line.
3) Connect the other to a lamp with a broken light bulb.
4) Attach an R/F transmitter to the back of the server.
5) Write a phantom to do the following:
a) Check active users
b) When all users in the group are present:
c) send a signal to the first device to open the gas line
d) loop on a Sleep to wait 5 minutes
e) close the gas line if activity on a process stops
f) signal the second device to turn on the light

You may need to play with the code at 5a and 5e a little, but after
that it works a treat! The best time to run the phantom is after
lunch, usually mexican. That way they won't get all worried about the
rotten egg smell.

Oh yeah, and lock the doors and disable the fire suppression and alarm
system, otherwise the whole thing gets messed up.

HTH
T


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Default Re: Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-06-2007 , 08:58 AM



If you're on Unix, something like "fuser -k ... " to kill everyone in
a particular directory, not sure of syntax, I don't use it, but know
others who do.



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Default Re: Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-07-2007 , 01:34 PM



Phil,

Speaking from experience...

Killing Universe users from an automated script is not a good idea.
You are playing a form of Russian roulette with file corruption.

Your real problems are:.

- rolling blackouts
- telnet dependency

My suggestion would be to use something like a Citrix server or a
Windows Terminal Server. The session would really be running on the
server and sudden loss of power would not disconnect the terminal
emulator from the host. The users could reconnect and reclaim their
desktop/session, saving the administrators the cleanup work and
further protecting the integrity of the database.

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/pr...f=PROHOME_Main
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...s/default.mspx

Bob


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Default Re: Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-08-2007 , 08:20 PM



Hi
You are assuming that they have UPS on the main system. I can vouch for the
Citrix solution with D3 however I would still suggest UPS for the
workstations is cheaper and easier. They are a dime a dozen at bulk shops
these days or what we have done in the past is put one big one on a circuit
for PCs. That does of course depend on the building layout.
I agree with all you say. Russian Roulette indeed, I reckon that that would
even top SP-EDIT MUD in D3 which can excite the occasional user or
CLEAR-FILE DATA POINTER-FILE. The latter one is great for finding people
who write PROCS that depend on a list saved last month.
Peter McMurray

"Bob Ruiz" <bob.ruiz (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Phil,

Speaking from experience...

Killing Universe users from an automated script is not a good idea.
You are playing a form of Russian roulette with file corruption.

Your real problems are:.

- rolling blackouts
- telnet dependency

My suggestion would be to use something like a Citrix server or a
Windows Terminal Server. The session would really be running on the
server and sudden loss of power would not disconnect the terminal
emulator from the host. The users could reconnect and reclaim their
desktop/session, saving the administrators the cleanup work and
further protecting the integrity of the database.

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/pr...f=PROHOME_Main
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...s/default.mspx

Bob




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Default Re: Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system - 04-10-2007 , 05:50 PM



Quote:
"Phillip" wrote:
Has anyone automated killing a group of users from a universe system

Tony Gravagno wrote:
Sure! All the time. This works from any MV environment:
1) Get two X10 analog relay switches.
2) Connect one to a gas line.
3) Connect the other to a lamp with a broken light bulb.
4) Attach an R/F transmitter to the back of the server.
5) Write a phantom to do the following:
a) Check active users
b) When all users in the group are present:
c) send a signal to the first device to open the gas line
d) loop on a Sleep to wait 5 minutes
e) close the gas line if activity on a process stops
f) signal the second device to turn on the light

You may need to play with the code at 5a and 5e a little, but after
that it works a treat! The best time to run the phantom is after
lunch, usually mexican. That way they won't get all worried about the
rotten egg smell.

Oh yeah, and lock the doors and disable the fire suppression and alarm
system, otherwise the whole thing gets messed up.

HTH
T
Damn... beat me to it! =`:^>

I actually saw a user, one time, I'm pretty sure,
at least I think it was a user.

--
frosty




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