except when you went on holiday of course, and the google group started
lagging! <G>

Regards
Simon
"Mike Preece" <michael (AT) preece (DOT) net> wrote

A friend tells you what other people don't. Mike, after all of your
announcements and invitations, doesn't a total of 36 subscribers make
a statement of its own? Feel free to ignore my posts and just
consider those written by everyone else - you'll find the message is
the same.

I've said exactly what I felt reasonable, and with that I'll add one
more item to the list of subjects I won't be discussing.

T

"Mike Preece" wrote:
I have a final backup of the projects and project web pages that were
posted to mvDevCentral, but I don't know which project is yours. If
you tell me the name I can make it available somewhere for download,
or pass it to you for your own handling, but I won't publish someone
else's project to a forum.

Please feel free to e-mail me off-list so we can discuss, and then you
can make an announcement here or somewhere else.

T
TG@ remembertoremovethispartNebula-RnD.com

Tony Gravagno wrote:

You really can feel free to post the source for the QuickestSort
project to u2users. I was originally going to post it here in cdp but
was advised to post to mvdevcentral instead. Not a wise course of
action as it turned out. However - I do still have some control over
whether or not u2users goes the same way.

Cheers
Mike.

Mike,

Does a google group have a mailing address? If it does, maybe you could
sign your group up to the u2ug list for individual messages .... that
way they would be 'mirrored' across into your group from the u2ug list,
so you would be able to google them. Just a thought :-)

Ross Ferris wrote:

And a good one too. Cheers! Yes - you can post to google groups via
email. I'll see if I can arrange something along those lines. Gotta
think about this though... I wouldn't want subscribers to the google
group that are also subscribed to the email list server to get double
posts. Hmmm...

Ya see it's like this - I've set u2users up so that only members can
post, that messages are delivered without moderation, and that users
can decide where their replies are sent. I've also set it up so that
anyone can become a member, only moderators can invite (but not
moderate(?!)), so that it is listed in the google groups directory and
that anyone can read the archive (without having to become a member).

Anyone can register as a member - and choose whether they want to have
each and every message posted to the group sent out to them by email,
to get one email only per day, get them batched into 25 posts as a
single email, or choose not to have any messages emailed at all - in
which case they can read the group on the web just as I any many others
have been doing with CDP. Note that not all of these facilities exist
for CDP because it's not a google group as such.

They really are kinda cool. Honest! They also give you the HTML and
gifs to put a nice link on your web pages to take people to either sign
up to the group and/or search the archives. Quite snazzy.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll think on...

Cheers,
Mike.

"Mike Preece" wrote:
This is the list of projects that I have.
admprg
atool
crul
d3bridge-simple
dtool
flashgui
guifv
js4u2
listmaker
mvprecompiler
mvwww
mytk
pbformat
pebriz
qpgkinstall
slag
tfmngr

Prior to the site being taken offline I did an FTP download of
everything that was out there related to the web site including web
pages, cvs files, and project configs. It's possible that data was
lost before I got to it, so if QuickestSort isn't there then it's
gone. I do trust that anyone who posted projects to mvDC has their
own original/backups. For better or worse, the only people who
contributed to projects were the project authors, so it's hard to
believe anything was really lost.

For anyone who doesn't recall, the problem with mvDC as I understand
it was that Glen loaded some patches which caused the entire Debian
environment to go whacko. There was no fault, it just happened, and I
don't think anyone is more frustrated about it than Glen.
<OT comment>This is exactly the kind of thing that I was trying to get
people to recognize in a couple threads on the topic of Linux and Open
Source vulnerabilities, but fanatics seem to just want to sweep it
under the carpet and blame me personally for having some other
agenda.</>

Hind sight is always 20/20. That _was_ the right place to post open
source projects. Unfortunately people seemed to only be interested in
taking software and not contributing to open projects, so the notion
of open source in MV is the wisdom that should be reconsidered, not
open source itself, and not MVDC as a repository. Had there been more
MV community interest in actually supporting open source, as so many
people here claim to be supportive of such things, then there would
have been more regular backups and a more stable environment under the
site.

I am not subscribed to the u2users Google list anyway, so I wouldn't
be able to post it. If you have the code you can post it there. I
don't know why it's being put on me to be so free to post your code to
your forum.

Sorry Mike, I'm getting tired of all of this.

T