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Glen B
 
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Default Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 10:51 AM








I have 17-18 dumb terminals that need a home. Most of them
are functional, but I have not plugged them in for years. I
know, for sure, that one of them has a bad host serial port.
There's plenty of swappable parts to get atleast 4-5 good
working terminals outta the lot. Probably more. The Wyse-65
terminals are in good shape and work.

10 Wyse-60 (green and orange mix)
3 Wyse-30 (mostly green I think)
3 Link MC5 (orange)
1 Wyse-65 that has aged
1 Wyse-65 that looks nearly new.
2 Wyse-65 narrow keyboards
2 old full-size Wyse keyboards

If you want, I will add a Digi Xem 64-port card with a
16-port Xem module to an old Dell Dimension dekstop(866 or
933Mhz) and ask for a small offer + freight for the whole
bundle. The original Dell software (Win 2000 Pro I believe
with Office SB) will be included. You can throw on Debian
Linux and OpenQM and have a complete and stable MV system
for cheap.

SOMEONE PLEASE TAKE THESE TERMINALS.. $18 per terminal to
trash them is nutz. Weight will be a little over 100 pounds
total, so it should go LTL. I would estimate freight on 70
pounds X 2 pallets. I do not have the packing materials
required to stack these things.

PS: No lot splitting. It's all or nothing! We need that
warehouse floor space back. I can provide digital photos of
any aspect of the terminals upon request.

Serious inquires should go to:

Glen Batchelor
All-Spec Industries Inc.
5228 U.S. Hwy 421 North
Wilmington, NC 28401

Direct Phone: 910-332-0424
Web: http://www.all-spec.com
E-mail: webmaster (AT) allspec (DOT) com
Specify "Dumb Terminals" as the E-mail subject


- Glen
http://mvdevcentral.com

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Tom Pellitieri
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 12:49 PM






Glen, if you don't get an offer, you might want to contact Vecmar
(www.vecmar.com) - they sell remanufactured terminals. We've traded
non-working terminals for a credit on refurbished units in the past -
they may be willing to pay to take them off your hands so they can
rebuild/resell them.

--Tom Pellitieri
Century Equipment
Toledo, Ohio


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Glen B
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 12:55 PM



On 27 Apr 2005 10:49:46 -0700, "Tom Pellitieri"
<tpellitieri (AT) centuryequip (DOT) com> decreased the available
storage space of our news server by typing the following:

Tom,

I've tried a lot of places, including Vecmar, and they're
all on the other side of the continent. I'm on the east
coast and there are no rebuilders near. No one wants to pay
cross-country freight on 2 pallets of old terminals. I may
try calling Vecmar again, since no one responded to my
voicemail or e-mail.

Thanks,
Glen

Quote:
Glen, if you don't get an offer, you might want to contact Vecmar
(www.vecmar.com) - they sell remanufactured terminals. We've traded
non-working terminals for a credit on refurbished units in the past -
they may be willing to pay to take them off your hands so they can
rebuild/resell them.

--Tom Pellitieri
Century Equipment
Toledo, Ohio



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Ricky
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 03:16 PM




"Glen B" <spamlesswebmaster (AT) nospamforALLSPEC (DOT) com> wrote in message
Quote:
I have 17-18 dumb terminals that need a home. Most of them
are functional, but I have not plugged them in for years. I
know, for sure, that one of them has a bad host serial port.
There's plenty of swappable parts to get atleast 4-5 good
working terminals outta the lot. Probably more. The Wyse-65
terminals are in good shape and work.
[snip] Glen - put 'em in the dumpster at work. One or two a week if you have
to. I just emptied out my storage closet and tossed 6 working dumb terminals
in the trash. No one wants them and the folks that are still using 'em have
3 or 4 in the closet for spares.

Quote:
If you want, I will add a Digi Xem 64-port card with a
16-port Xem module to an old Dell Dimension dekstop(866 or
933Mhz) and ask for a small offer + freight for the whole
bundle. The original Dell software (Win 2000 Pro I believe
with Office SB) will be included. You can throw on Debian
Linux and OpenQM and have a complete and stable MV system
for cheap.
[snipped the rest] I would save the Digi card and module for a while longer.
There are folks still using these. I have a customer in Nashville that is
using one for 9 serial printers. What's it worth to you? I'll give him a
call.

Donate the computer to some local charity and you can take a tax write off
for the original purchase price.

And that's my 2 cents.




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Jeffrey Kaufman
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 03:46 PM




"Ricky" <rginsburg (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
[snip]

Donate the computer to some local charity and you can take a tax write off
for the original purchase price.

I tried to donate some of my old computers to charity. They wouldn't take
them unless they were Pentium II or greater. Even the charities are getting
picky. I had to dumpster them. Even now, I've got 4 servers sitting here,
but only two of them are turned on.




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Scott Ballinger
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 04:16 PM



Ricky wrote:
[snip]
Quote:
Donate the computer to some local charity and you can take a tax write off
for the original purchase price.
I don't think that is very good advice. Check with your CPA, but I'll
bet that your deduction is limited to the depreciated value, or probably
zero since is it likely the full cost was expensed in the year purchased.

Scott (passed the CPA exam a long time ago but never did the accountant
thing) Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
Edmonds WA USA
206 713 6006


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Patrick Latimer
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-27-2005 , 08:36 PM



Glen B wrote:

Quote:
I have 17-18 dumb terminals that need a home. Most of them
are functional, but I have not plugged them in for years. I
know, for sure, that one of them has a bad host serial port.
There's plenty of swappable parts to get atleast 4-5 good
working terminals outta the lot. Probably more. The Wyse-65
terminals are in good shape and work.

10 Wyse-60 (green and orange mix)
3 Wyse-30 (mostly green I think)
3 Link MC5 (orange)
1 Wyse-65 that has aged
1 Wyse-65 that looks nearly new.
2 Wyse-65 narrow keyboards
2 old full-size Wyse keyboards

Glen save me the Wyse-60s I have a friend is Greensboro.
I'll contact you offline.

Thanks, Patrick <;=)


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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-28-2005 , 05:31 PM



"Jeffrey Kaufman" <jkaufman (AT) keydata (DOT) us> wrote:
Quote:
I tried to donate some of my old computers to charity. They wouldn't take
them unless they were Pentium II or greater. Even the charities are getting
picky. I had to dumpster them. Even now, I've got 4 servers sitting here,
but only two of them are turned on.
Old boxes like that are good for many little reasons. Consider your
old systems more as appliances than fully functional servers. Sure,
you'll chew up a little more electricity, but think how much lower
your heating bills will be in the winter!

1) Control your house with X10 automation running on a box that never
gets shutdown. (Free security system.)

2) For a small business, an old system can be a low-traffic web
server/interface to another MV app server. (Linux or Win32, doesn't
matter.) With a mid-tier like that you can shutdown your app box (D3,
mvBASE, whatever) and the web server can be updated with a "server is
temporarily unavailable" type message. For someone who wants to use a
product like DesignBais that requires IIS over Win32, a dedicated
little box like this is ideal to connect to a Linux back-end.

3) With some cheap shareware or freeware you can setup a Linux-based
firewall/router. Lots of options there for fine-tuning. A Linksys
would be just as good... I used to use John Lombardo's ShareTheNet
and was very happy with it for a couple years - that system didn't
even have a hard drive installed, it all ran from floppy.

4) If you need to do ODBC with Linux, with D3 there is only a Win32
client component available. It may help to have a dummy Win32 box
that does nothing but host that component. Outside of running
something like Wine, there's no other way to do JDBC with D3.

5) If you're going to install new software for testing, a DBMS,
shareware, etc, why put it on a production box and clutter up disk and
registry, etc? Install the code on a system that you can trash and
reinstall. Sure, we can do stuff like this with vmWare or MS Virtual
PC too, but think about how much disk that uses and how slow your
primary system runs when virtual environments are running.

6) In-house backup storage: Put a few 200+GB disk drives on an old box
and use it purely as a network storage device. Just give it a decent
NIC. No real processing power required. Got a backup strategy?

Oh, and about dumb terminals (only semi serious here):

1) Set them up in the office foyer to greet users. Make it move data
from one screen to another sort of like the way Ultimate did their
1000 terminal display at Spectrum years ago.

2) Gut the insides through the top ventillation - they make very
unusual indoor/outdoor planters.

3) Unique fish bowl?

4) Substitute for a pumpkin at halloween?

5) Keep them in the house or yard for the kids to play make believe :
"I'm flying a space ship!" "I'm a stock broker!" ... hmmm, maybe not.

T


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frosty
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-28-2005 , 06:28 PM



Quote:
"Glen B" <spamlesswebmaster (AT) nospamforALLSPEC (DOT) com> wrote in message
I have 17-18 dumb terminals that need a home. Most of them
are functional, but I have not plugged them in for years. I
know, for sure, that one of them has a bad host serial port.
There's plenty of swappable parts to get atleast 4-5 good
working terminals outta the lot. Probably more. The Wyse-65
terminals are in good shape and work.

Ricky wrote:
[snip] Glen - put 'em in the dumpster at work. One or two a week if
you have to. I just emptied out my storage closet and tossed 6
working dumb terminals in the trash.
[snip]
Please, please do NOT do that. Even if it happens to be legal
where you are. Check your local landfill and see if they have a
hazardous waste day, when they'll take your paints, chemicals,
terminals, etc. and dispose of them PROPERLY.

--
frosty




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Jeffrey Kaufman
 
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Default Re: Free dumb terminals - 04-28-2005 , 07:14 PM



Tony,

Help me figure out what to do with this AP/Pro box. Right now it is acting
as a stand for my fax machine. Any other suggestions?

We used to use Prism terminals as step stools in the warehouse. But they
were so heavy to move.

Jeff

"Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote

Quote:
"Jeffrey Kaufman" <jkaufman (AT) keydata (DOT) us> wrote:
I tried to donate some of my old computers to charity. They wouldn't take
them unless they were Pentium II or greater. Even the charities are
getting
picky. I had to dumpster them. Even now, I've got 4 servers sitting here,
but only two of them are turned on.

Old boxes like that are good for many little reasons. Consider your
old systems more as appliances than fully functional servers. Sure,
you'll chew up a little more electricity, but think how much lower
your heating bills will be in the winter!

1) Control your house with X10 automation running on a box that never
gets shutdown. (Free security system.)

2) For a small business, an old system can be a low-traffic web
server/interface to another MV app server. (Linux or Win32, doesn't
matter.) With a mid-tier like that you can shutdown your app box (D3,
mvBASE, whatever) and the web server can be updated with a "server is
temporarily unavailable" type message. For someone who wants to use a
product like DesignBais that requires IIS over Win32, a dedicated
little box like this is ideal to connect to a Linux back-end.

3) With some cheap shareware or freeware you can setup a Linux-based
firewall/router. Lots of options there for fine-tuning. A Linksys
would be just as good... I used to use John Lombardo's ShareTheNet
and was very happy with it for a couple years - that system didn't
even have a hard drive installed, it all ran from floppy.

4) If you need to do ODBC with Linux, with D3 there is only a Win32
client component available. It may help to have a dummy Win32 box
that does nothing but host that component. Outside of running
something like Wine, there's no other way to do JDBC with D3.

5) If you're going to install new software for testing, a DBMS,
shareware, etc, why put it on a production box and clutter up disk and
registry, etc? Install the code on a system that you can trash and
reinstall. Sure, we can do stuff like this with vmWare or MS Virtual
PC too, but think about how much disk that uses and how slow your
primary system runs when virtual environments are running.

6) In-house backup storage: Put a few 200+GB disk drives on an old box
and use it purely as a network storage device. Just give it a decent
NIC. No real processing power required. Got a backup strategy?

Oh, and about dumb terminals (only semi serious here):

1) Set them up in the office foyer to greet users. Make it move data
from one screen to another sort of like the way Ultimate did their
1000 terminal display at Spectrum years ago.

2) Gut the insides through the top ventillation - they make very
unusual indoor/outdoor planters.

3) Unique fish bowl?

4) Substitute for a pumpkin at halloween?

5) Keep them in the house or yard for the kids to play make believe :
"I'm flying a space ship!" "I'm a stock broker!" ... hmmm, maybe not.

T



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