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Default Dot Net for Pickies - 05-13-2010 , 01:55 PM






I needed to download Visual Studio 2010 for some work I'm doing. It's clear
to me that I should be reading an intro book of some kind. Diving into the
tools at this point will just slow me down. So who has some book titles that
would be a good start? I'm not totally new to OOP, but I still need to come
up to speed on the latest environments. I believe I'll be doing C# and VB.

Thanks,

Ed

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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-13-2010 , 02:01 PM






"Ed Sheehan" <NOedsSPAM (AT) xmission (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I needed to download Visual Studio 2010 for some work I'm doing. It's
clear to me that I should be reading an intro book of some kind. Diving
into the tools at this point will just slow me down. So who has some book
titles that would be a good start? I'm not totally new to OOP, but I still
need to come up to speed on the latest environments. I believe I'll be
doing C# and VB.

Thanks,

Ed

There are a few 2010 books at Amazon. The first were officially released
last month so they may be full of errors. I have 2010 C++ and the errors
are at least easy to detect. The Visual Studio 2010 express has very good
tutorials, perhaps better than any of the new books. The C++ express is,
at least in my opinion, better than any of the books I've seen. One of my
daughters uses C# and VB and says much the same about these.
BobJ

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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-14-2010 , 03:32 AM



"Ed Sheehan" wrote:
Quote:
I needed to download Visual Studio 2010 for some work I'm doing. It's clear
to me that I should be reading an intro book of some kind. Diving into the
tools at this point will just slow me down. So who has some book titles that
would be a good start? I'm not totally new to OOP, but I still need to come
up to speed on the latest environments. I believe I'll be doing C# and VB.
Just hit the shelves:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010, A Beginner's Guide
Joe Mayo, C# MVP
http://bit.ly/cDVpSM (good info from publisher and purchase)
and
http://tinyurl.com/2b3cyh2 (better prices at Amazon)

I've served as Tech Editor for some of Joe's other books, so I know
the quality of his writing is always high. Unfortunately I didn't
work on this one.

I might be wrong but I believe I remember Joe saying VS2008 had
enhancements and features over VS2005, but VS2010 is an evolutionary
update. I dunno yet, haven't seen it. Personally I'm avoiding VS2010
as long as I can. I don't see a need for it quite yet. Maybe I
should read the book too. :b

Let us know what you think.
T

PS Why are so many people inclined to write "Dot Net" when the name
of the platform is ".NET" ?

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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-14-2010 , 08:21 AM



Thanks, Tony. I'll look at it...

PS How do you pronounce ".NET?"

Ed

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Quote:
"Ed Sheehan" wrote:
I needed to download Visual Studio 2010 for some work I'm doing. It's
clear
to me that I should be reading an intro book of some kind. Diving into the
tools at this point will just slow me down. So who has some book titles
that
would be a good start? I'm not totally new to OOP, but I still need to
come
up to speed on the latest environments. I believe I'll be doing C# and VB.

Just hit the shelves:

Microsoft Visual Studio 2010, A Beginner's Guide
Joe Mayo, C# MVP
http://bit.ly/cDVpSM (good info from publisher and purchase)
and
http://tinyurl.com/2b3cyh2 (better prices at Amazon)

I've served as Tech Editor for some of Joe's other books, so I know
the quality of his writing is always high. Unfortunately I didn't
work on this one.

I might be wrong but I believe I remember Joe saying VS2008 had
enhancements and features over VS2005, but VS2010 is an evolutionary
update. I dunno yet, haven't seen it. Personally I'm avoiding VS2010
as long as I can. I don't see a need for it quite yet. Maybe I
should read the book too. :b

Let us know what you think.
T

PS Why are so many people inclined to write "Dot Net" when the name
of the platform is ".NET" ?

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Kevin Powick
 
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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-14-2010 , 08:24 AM



On 2010-05-14 09:21:42 -0400, "Ed Sheehan" <NOedsSPAM (AT) xmission (DOT) com> said:

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PS How do you pronounce ".NET?"
Just like it sounds.

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Ed Sheehan
 
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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-14-2010 , 09:54 AM



Just giving T a little razz... I guess I should just use .NET.

DoubleUDoubleUDoubleUDotEyeBeeEMDotCom
www.ibm.com

Yep, the latter is better. :-)

Ed

"Kevin Powick" <nospam (AT) spamless (DOT) com> wrote

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On 2010-05-14 09:21:42 -0400, "Ed Sheehan" <NOedsSPAM (AT) xmission (DOT) com> said:

PS How do you pronounce ".NET?"

Just like it sounds.

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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-14-2010 , 12:50 PM



The very best set of books are the Murach books - "VB 2005" or "C#
2005". The books format is excellent, the explanations are very good,
and the examples are geared to real world database issues using OOP
principles.

When I decided to learn VB.NET, I bought some hefty books, thinking that
since I was a professional programmer it would be a cinch for me to
learn. Big mistake. Don't assume because you've done programming for 20
years it's going to be a snap. Go it slowly. And the Murach books are
just right for that approach - for professionals learning something new.

Go to a bookstore and look at one of their books, or go to their web
site www.murach.com, and download some chapters.

Highly recommended.

Sholom

Ed Sheehan wrote:
Quote:
I needed to download Visual Studio 2010 for some work I'm doing. It's clear
to me that I should be reading an intro book of some kind. Diving into the
tools at this point will just slow me down. So who has some book titles that
would be a good start? I'm not totally new to OOP, but I still need to come
up to speed on the latest environments. I believe I'll be doing C# and VB.

Thanks,

Ed


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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-14-2010 , 12:59 PM



Sounds like good advice Sholom. Thanks.

Ed

"sh" <shamada (AT) prupipe (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
The very best set of books are the Murach books - "VB 2005" or "C# 2005".
The books format is excellent, the explanations are very good, and the
examples are geared to real world database issues using OOP principles.

When I decided to learn VB.NET, I bought some hefty books, thinking that
since I was a professional programmer it would be a cinch for me to learn.
Big mistake. Don't assume because you've done programming for 20 years
it's going to be a snap. Go it slowly. And the Murach books are just right
for that approach - for professionals learning something new.

Go to a bookstore and look at one of their books, or go to their web site
www.murach.com, and download some chapters.

Highly recommended.

Sholom

Ed Sheehan wrote:
I needed to download Visual Studio 2010 for some work I'm doing. It's
clear to me that I should be reading an intro book of some kind. Diving
into the tools at this point will just slow me down. So who has some book
titles that would be a good start? I'm not totally new to OOP, but I
still need to come up to speed on the latest environments. I believe I'll
be doing C# and VB.

Thanks,

Ed

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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-15-2010 , 12:23 PM



I haven't read a Murach book and am not saying anything contrary to
Sholom, just adding my own feedback.

"Ed Sheehan" wrote:

Quote:
Sounds like good advice Sholom. Thanks.
Hehe, and similar to a blog I posted a couple weeks ago:
nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2010/04/mv-to-dot-net.html
and similar to notes I've been posting for years.

( big smiles )

BTW, Murach doesn't have anything on .NET 4 or VS2010 yet.

Having worked on some books for different publishers (yes there is
life outside of MV nospamNebula-RnD.com/articles) I think I can
comment on loyalty or simply fondness or specific publishers. The
publisher isn't really the key, it's the author(s) and editors. Good
authors look bad with poor editing and many authors write for
different publishers. The publisher provides a consistent structure,
which may be very appealing, but the author and editors still need to
fill that template with quality content. The publishers really don't
know the content and leave it to the authors and editors to get it all
right. The better publishers have on-staff editors who are better
than others, not about content but just about flow and
understandability. The bottom line here is that it's nice to
appreciate specific books by specific publishers but one really needs
to just sample the entire assortment of works before buying on any
topic.

Spending time at the bookstore is a very good idea. And visit
different stores like Borders, and Barne's and Noble, because they
sometimes carry different publishers and titles. Then check Amazon
for Much better pricing. Finally consider Safari if you frequently
eat books as part of a healthy diet. There's no paper, but all the
tasty books you can eat at a great price.

T

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BobJ
 
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Default Re: Dot Net for Pickies - 05-15-2010 , 01:07 PM



Top post because you might not be able to find the bottom

Safari is fine but nothing beats Kindle, at least for me. That's at least
partly because I can't hold a paper book and a Kindle is much more portable
than a lap top. And the delivery over cell is really convenient.

BobJ

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Quote:
I haven't read a Murach book and am not saying anything contrary to
Sholom, just adding my own feedback.

"Ed Sheehan" wrote:

Sounds like good advice Sholom. Thanks.

Hehe, and similar to a blog I posted a couple weeks ago:
nospamNebula-RnD.com/blog/tech/mv/2010/04/mv-to-dot-net.html
and similar to notes I've been posting for years.

( big smiles )

BTW, Murach doesn't have anything on .NET 4 or VS2010 yet.

Having worked on some books for different publishers (yes there is
life outside of MV nospamNebula-RnD.com/articles) I think I can
comment on loyalty or simply fondness or specific publishers. The
publisher isn't really the key, it's the author(s) and editors. Good
authors look bad with poor editing and many authors write for
different publishers. The publisher provides a consistent structure,
which may be very appealing, but the author and editors still need to
fill that template with quality content. The publishers really don't
know the content and leave it to the authors and editors to get it all
right. The better publishers have on-staff editors who are better
than others, not about content but just about flow and
understandability. The bottom line here is that it's nice to
appreciate specific books by specific publishers but one really needs
to just sample the entire assortment of works before buying on any
topic.

Spending time at the bookstore is a very good idea. And visit
different stores like Borders, and Barne's and Noble, because they
sometimes carry different publishers and titles. Then check Amazon
for Much better pricing. Finally consider Safari if you frequently
eat books as part of a healthy diet. There's no paper, but all the
tasty books you can eat at a great price.

T

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