Hello group,
Is there any MV distribution software out there for sale? The
software will have to include modules of Order Entry, Purchasing, A/R,
A/P, Inventory Control and other modules. The software would have to
be written in straight Pick Basic or any Basic flavor. This includes
source code and the legal rights. No 4GLs please, just straight
character based.

What would something like this be worth? How much would somebody be
willing to pay?

Peter

(I have a feeling this is going to create a very long thread)

On Mar 21, 1:55 pm, "mdsi2000" <mdsi2... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
I know someone who is doing such a thing in designbais - so a nice web
front end - if that is of any use to you ?


Rgds
Symeon.

mdsi2000 wrote:
I would be happy to discuss selling our pick software that includes all
you asked about and no 4GL or other gui-ness. It has been developed and
in use over the last 30 years and is still in use in several locations.

Contact me at 419-989-4656 to discuss it.

Or you could remove the word 'at' from my address on this message and
send me an email ...

Bill Millikin
Bill and Lou, Inc.
Mansfield OH USA
419-989-4656

We have a character based, very mature, very feature rich, inventory
management, customer, service, and accounting package that meets your
specifications. We have 34 installations of which 25 are paying monthly
support.

We are in the process putting a new front end on the software using
DesignBais. We stopped marketing our current package for the duration of the
conversion and can use some capital to cover some overhead and pay for
contract labor by Tony G and David McLean.

We would consider "selling" you a copy of the software for you to make your
own depending on a number of factors. Where are you located? What markets do
you server? What are your short and long term goals? Etc. In other words, we
don't want to create a new competitor as Dick Pick did many moons ago.

I'm sure there are standard formulas that can be used to determine the value
of a software package. The bottom line is the software is worth whatever you
are willing to pay for it.

Contact me off line if you are interested in discussing this further.

Jeff

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Jeffrey Kaufman
Key Data Systems Group
www.keydata.us
1111 Grizzly Peak Blvd.
Berkeley, CA 94708
510-486-9015 office
510-486-9016 fax
559-432-3832 cell



"mdsi2000" <mdsi2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

On Mar 21, 6:55 am, "mdsi2000" <mdsi2... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Could you define 'the legal rights'? How would this impact the
original authors should you decide to resell or alter and resell?

Dale

Hi
We have a mature product, developed over 25 years, that we are quite happy
to sell you the source code to. All in D3 in a highly standardised fashion,
no hidden magic routines, that enables you to alter, amend or add to easily.

contact us at Excalibur21 (AT) bigpond (DOT) com.
Peter McMurray
"mdsi2000" <mdsi2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

I think the basic question is what you want to do with this. It
sounds like you want to buy a license to modify and sell a branded
version of someone else's base application.

(I know Peter (the OP) understands most or all of this but I'll spell
it out to set the base understanding.)

MV VARs sell a license to use their software on a single server, at a
single site, or for any sites within a given company. And for many
applications the source is included, however this is not "Open
Source". The license frequently will expressly forbid moving the
software anywhere else, but does not prohibit the end-user from
modifying the source themselves, and usually does not require
modifications to be sent back to the VAR. The problem here is when
the VAR distributes v2 of the software which is no longer compatible
with v1+custom_mods.

A developer will not customarily sell his application outright to
another party, along with a license to modify and sell it. We've seen
how this turns into a real mess just within a couple years, with bad
feelings between companies, end-users who can't get anyone to support
their customized code, source missing, and other nightmarish issues.

If you can clarify your business model, as a user or reseller, and
what you'd like to do with the software overall, you'll probably find
a number of developers eager to provide whatever you want, provided
the long-term benefits are equitable.

FWIW, I've just been made aware of another company outside the USA who
might have software to satisfy your needs - but you need to clarify
your goals just a bit more.

Regards,
T


"mdsi2000" wrote:

On Mar 22, 12:55 am, "mdsi2000" <mdsi2... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Peter,

YOU are the one that has to ask yourself how much YOU are willing to
pay (unless you are actually seeding to sell your own product?) - and
"how". General rule of thumb - you will not find a product that you
can purchase rights for $1K and then sell to your first customer for
$1M (though I'm happy to be wrong!)

We have some experience in "white boxing" our products into "foreign"
markets (South Africa, UK & USA - though if you are after payroll as
well you will need to update yourself as we haven't done anything
recently to keep upto date with Local taxes, FUTA, Quarterlies etc
[may be able to source for you though]). Contact me directly to
explore opportunities if you want .... and brinmg your shopping list
along so we can determine which modules you DON'T want :-)

As others have suggested, you also need some clarification of the use/
implication of "legal rights" - I assume that what you are really
after is to ensure that you can sell "the software" and/or any
derivative product

On Mar 21, 5:37 pm, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... (AT) removethis (DOT) com.invalid> wrote:
Hello Tony and all,
That is pretty much what I want to do. I don't want any ties to the
original authors of the software. My intent is have something that has
been working for years. I don't have the time or staff to start from
scratch.

This will not be a problem for me. If the software is written somewhat
consistant, I could add my own updates. This is one reason why I want
straight BASIC and no 4GLs.


So there is a history of what I want to do? I can't imagine what "bad
feelings" there would be. If and when I do find a software, my
attorney will have the "purchasing contract" covering all areas.
Oviously, I'll have to inspect the software and look at the code.

Yes, I have been contacted by email form several developers.

Tony, If you can provide me with a contact that would be appreciated.
One issue that I'm running aginst now is competition with the
developer. Going outside the US would make the developer more
confertable.

Thanks for your response. I always look forward to options.

Peter

Hello Ross,
I'm not looking for seeding a product. (I wish I had something to
seed)

Here is my situation. I'm an honest person/consultant and my clients
know that about me. I could very well steal or borrow code from
various companies. I have seen and witness this practice in some
companies. That is not me.

I would prefebly stay away from payroll. I know that's is another
world and the liability is very high.


"legal right" That means that I can do what I want with it.
* Sell it without paying any comisisons to developer.
* Negotiate with other vendors without the express written permission
of the developer.
* Modify / Enhance the program to my clients need.