Has anyone done work with DesignBais on PDAs using Pocket Internet Explorer?

I see on the DesignBais website that it doesn't handle multivalue inputs
(I guess they mean in a grid setting) on PDAs. How do you get around
this limitation?

Any other issues with DesignBais & PocketIE?

I have not so much done an app to work in a pda, but have done a few
w3c status screens so i can monitor the system from my phone when out
and about.

There is a good white paper on the different mode differences at
http://designbais.bais.com.au/dbinst...in%20Modes.pdf


rgds
Symeon.

sh wrote:

That was the document I was refering to. Seems like it really has
problems working on PDAs.

Symeon wrote:

I seem to remember someone somewhere saying that MV grids will be
coming to w3c style forms. There is a google group for designbais where
you could pop the Question.


sh wrote:

Sh,

Yes, Db works very well on PDAs. I have it running on my Dell Axim for
demos. The thing you need to remember is that a PDA is a special case
of W3C and is has its own standards (and you probably want to use
smaller fonts). So a form written for a W3C mode will not be displayed
properly in PDA mode. You will need to specifically tag the form for
PDA mode.

We are doing some work on W3C mode and I believe that On-Form Reports
will be able supported in W3C mode in our upcoming 4.1 release due out
the end of this month.

Rick

If you want to more help from other DB users, you may want to post this
on the DesignBais forum,
http://groups.google.com/group/DesignBais-Forum

Rick Weiser wrote:

Rick Weiser wrote:
Rick

I quite understand that screens must be fashioned specifically for a
PDA. That stands to reason, given it's smaller real estate and more
limited functionality. My question is, according to the document on your
web-site, it won't deal with multivalue input or output. Is that true?
If so, how does one get around that limitation? And doesn't that defeat
it's whole purpose (or at leat a sizeable portion of it)?

Sholom

sh wrote:

I'll request and recommend that you allow a couple of weeks for a
response, as the answer you get about MV Input controls might change
by then. If v4.1 does support on-form reports then this is one
solution to the problem of maintaining dependencies in a grid on a
PDA. You can simulate the MV Input control with an on-form report
(grid), allowing insert, change, and delete of line items. Since a
grid is built with a dynamic array, your BASIC code can easily manage
the update operations using standard methods:
info = delete(info,selectedrow)
or info = insert(info,selectedrow;line)

If this is the way we'll need to do things, I'll do a blog entry to
explain how it works. See other recent updates:
<http:// removethisNebula-RnD.com/blog/category/tech/mv/designbais/>

Whether or not on-form reports are supported for PDA in v4.1, there
are different ways to skin this cat. The MV Input control is
certainly a convenient way to maintain correlated MV data, but it's
not the only way.

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HTH
T

Hi - i have used the on form report technique for MV data in normal IE
forms where the number of mv columns would be too many to display
nicely. The technique is to populate a summary of the information into
an onform report. When the user then selects a line in the report,
input fields above or below the report are poulated with the values for
that value/row. These can be amended, and a submit will then update the
report. there can also be a delete action on the report and an insert
at the top/botom etc.

This would be possible in pda mode if onform reports are allowed AND
the report event is supported. As tony says, wait a few weeks and all
will be revealed

rgds
Symeon.


Tony Gravagno wrote:

Tony Gravagno wrote:
Thanks Tony for the info.

I don't know how DesignBais works internally - whether they roll their
own controls or use Microsoft & 3rd party controls, but if the problem
with MVs on a PDA is because there really isn't a satisfactory grid
control with input capability, you might recommend to them PDA controls
from a company named resco, www.resco.net/developer/default.asp which
sells pretty good controls for PDAs.

Sholom