DesignBais - Impressive

#**101**

Luke Webber wrote:

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MDI apps have already been mentioned. Why not open two debtor
maintenance screens at once? Without having to open two browser
sessions, log in and keep them open (with possible licensing issues
depending on the license model of the app).

Just for reference, with DesignBais, using ctrl-N or
menu>File>New>Window in IE, a user gets as many windows open to the
app as they want with no additional license consumption.

T

#**102**

Kevin Powick wrote:

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dawn wrote:

Public e-commerce sites are usually coded simply and to a low common
denominator, because that's all they require to work well.

If you think that is both the present and the future, OK.

I tend to work in the present, because chasing the future isn't very
productive.

I work in the present, including studying the past and present to
prepare for and mitigate for the future.

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While you're waiting for 100% cross-browser compatibility,
I'm poviding solutions to my clients.

I'll admit that I have missed on at least one occasion where I thought
tools and techniques were ready for prime time and they were not. Java
swing just didn't get me there fast enough for acceptable business data
processing. Java in the middle and back tiers is a tad better, but
still oodles more work than most of us would like. That is likely why
so many have moved to either Ruby or PHP.

Also, I am not waiting for 100% cross-browser compatibility and there
will be no such thing. More than one vendor = incompatibility, even if
very close. No one is waiting for such compatibility across SQL
flavors either, but it seems that SQL has caught on and is really quite
successful even for cross-database products (reporting tools as well as
vertical apps as examples). This gets to the Mac vs PC debates of the
late-80s/early 90's too.

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I suspect that when we/they were fast developing a web presence in
higher ed in 1993 and thereabouts, while still supporting gopher, the
business world thought we caring about things that didn't matter then
too, like the internet.

Yes, it's the all-knowing wizzards in higher ed that are responsible
for so much of our technology. Truth be told, it's the military we
have to thank for a lot of it.

Did I mention where those grant dollars came from? And higher ed
doesn't claim to be all-knowing, but they are in the business of
research, much of which yields no great changes in society. The money
flows there on the outside chance that a particular investment might be
the one to find a cure, for example.

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I do live in a different world because statements like that surprise
me. I don't understand why you would want to lock your app into
Windows if you have a choice

Such a meaningless statement.

Hmm.

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Regardless of technology choices, one
always becomes locked into something.

Of course. That is why the previous statement has meaning. It would
have a different meaning if I said "I don't know why you would want
your apps to be dependent on the electric company in xyz location" or
"I don't....Apache tomcat" so re-read the statement and see if you
still think it lacks meaning.

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Once you tread down far enough
down a development path, it is often very difficult to turn back.

Agreed. Which gets us back to trying to get clues and mitigate for the
future when making our present decisions. Cheers! --dawn

#**103**

"Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote in message ...

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"Kevin Powick" wrote:

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There's a family services group in my Southern California area that
seems to be wasting great amounts of time and money in the development
of a web app - after a year and a half of a project that was supposed
to be implemented in three months, there's no indication that the web
part of this app has even been discussed. This project isn't any of
my business really, but I keep checking in on them. All I can think
about is how much the government is paying agencies like this to
operate while the families who are supposed to be benefiting from the
technology aren't getting anything. By the time they have the project
spec'd out the people who wrote the specs will be gone and the next
people in will have completely different ideas about how it should all
work - actually I think that's one of the reasons why it's taken this
long.

Since when can efficient, effective. and bureaucracy be used in the same
sentence? Oh, I forgot, an efficient allocation of resources is __NOT__ an
effective property of bureaucracies. :-)

Bill

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