"Gene Buckle" wrote:
That's pretty brutal guys.
But if the shoe fits...
Then again, if it doesn't...

Is there anyone here running D3 Windows v9.x who has decided to
migrate from there to D3 Linux (or some other platform) due to
unresolved technical issues?

And might you be able to share exactly what v9.x issue(s) presented
the final straw for your migration?

I'd like to know for a client contemplating migration from Linux to
Windows, and just trying to keep it real.

Thanks.
T

Tony,

Feel free to download http://downloads.stamina.com.au/thrash.d3p

This is a pseudo tape of our "thrash" account - it came from a D3/
Linux box, so if you want to test on D3/Windows (or D3/NT :-) you will
need to change some code .... source is included (not pretty!!) in the
BP account & adjust to suit your environment - better update-md too
just to be safe

THRASH-WRITE (which creates badly sized files to force more disk I/O
through overflow) with 8 threads (adjust line 007) can bring a quad
core windows machine to its knees so badly that even the windows GUI
can become unresponsive.

Same thing, running on the same hardware on D3/Linux has virtually no
impact on interactive use!!

Case may be contrived & extreme, but illustrates presence of real
"issues" --> haven't bothered running on other platforms --> should be
trivial exercise if anyone is interested

THRASH-OSFI has also had some "interesting" results on D3/NT, but I
don't think it crashs system anymore


NOTE: These program WILL cause damage to your system, and should NOT
be used on production machines
(think of this as a disclaimer)

That's verified on v9, right?

To: Tony Gravagno
Tony wrote:
Why would they want to migrate TO Windows? If client applications require
it, they can always use VMWare Player on a Linux host to handle that, or
if they want to use MVSP on the host, they can use Mono for the .Net
end of it, or the Java interface TL also provides.

I've been using v9.0 under CentOS 5 for nearly a year and I've had ZERO
problems with it. Even running in an ESXi VM, it goes like a scalded cat.

g.
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Gene, for now I'd like to keep this focused to the above. Thanks.

On 7/26/11 10:23 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
Maybe the owner is going through a divorce, and he knows the
(ex-)wife is gonna get the company. =`;^>

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frosty

On Jul 27, 5:01*am, frosty <fros... (AT) bogus (DOT) invalid> wrote:
Hi
Why migrate?
First because of the high reliability of the FSI.
Second the ease of interface to the outside world particularly .Net.
Third because it makes sense to be on the most popular operating
system in the world. Windows 7 heading for the 400 million installs
already Market share alone would justify a developer moving and
support would justify a user doing so. Please don't tell me that you
can always find support on the web for Linux. That does not wash in a
client presentation.

As for the tests that Ross mentioned one can dream up anything to bend
something.
To wreck a Linux D3 system just turn the machine off and pray that the
last file save worked because you have lost everything in the VME
since. Whereas the FSI is good as gold because the underlying Windows
system protects it. Case in point major power failure in the Riverina
last week and despite training users forgot that they could still go
to the server and power it down. So there is a bit of workspace lost
as all the workstations crashed. A quick restore of the base system
when convenient will bring that back
Deliberately doing stupid things with file sizing does not prove
anything. In fact the FSI is highly resilient to bad sizing which
still does not imply that one should do it.
As for loading the old Help! The system explicitly says don't because
it relies on outdated procedures in Update - arguably the worst idea
Dick ever had - and we have had PDF docs for a very long time.

I have just discovered that the D3 9 sp1 fix for dodgy hangups with
flashed code is working fine. It transpires that the network
connections have crashed several times over the last few days -
possibly Telstra links or network overload - anyway my FSI based stuff
never missed a beat.

Basically Raining Data failed to do the required development on
Windows and concentrated on the "free" Linux. Now TigerLogic are
putting some effort in things are going much better.
Peter McMurray

Peter, while I agree with some of your statements, your substantiating
text ("...it's like this because...") is mostly wrong. I mean, we can
agree that the sky is blue because we can both see it, but then your
convictions become subject to question when you say the sky is blue
because it reflects the ocean. It makes me not want to admit that I
support some of your basic premise.

T

On Jul 26, 2:01*pm, frosty <fros... (AT) bogus (DOT) invalid> wrote:
LOL. Yes, I was thinking this was a hypothetical case study, but now I
understand there could be logic behind it. cheers! --dawn

On Jul 26, 5:10*pm, Tony Gravagno <tony_grava... (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid>
wrote:

???? What is verified on V9?