Hi
I know several have spoken about the need for an auto shutdown procedure in
the past. For some time I had foolishly assumed that the automatic
procedure that generates when NT is shutdown was sufficient.
Anyway chatting with Ins Tumilovics he pointed out that one can do this in
an n type sentence so I promptly set up a User called Shutoff and in field
12 placed the command SHUTDOWN (Y bingo to shutdown the system logon as
Shutoff and all rockets off quite happily although I am quite sure that some
user somewhere will find a way to screw it up.
Peter McMurray

Peter,

On D3/NT, one should NEVER shutdown Pick by shutting down Windows. That
kills the service, but does not "shutdown". It does NOT force a flush of
buffers or release of workspace. Did I say that strongly enough. NEVER.
We have a dozen or so restaurant clients who, for some reason, don't seem to
understand that and almost 100% of our support calls are to help when they
reboot and D3 doesn't shut down cleanly and so won't boot cleanly.

I personally use a terminal emulator called NetTerm that has user hot keys.
One I have programmed with my standard logon, another with a user SHUTDOWN
that does exactly what you describe. Works perfectly, only takes about 30
seconds and D3 always comes back up

Mark Brown

"Peter McMurray" <excalibur21 (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote

Hello Peter
It is possible to write windows app that will lock Windows shutdown or
standby if D3 service have still run.
Only one question: Why RD can't do it.

Just tell me if somebody need such application.
(As example of such application: BRIZ can lock Windows shutdown and can
shutdown D3 server in this case)

Regards,
Grigory

"Mark Brown" wrote
<<snip>>
--like shortening the idle flush time,
rewriting off/exit verbs in their accounts to also do a 'flush' verb,
maintaining a background demon in d3 to do automated file-saves,
scheduling jobs on both windows/d3 sides to
shutdown d3vme cleanly at 3am and copy the blob on
the windows side at 3:30am and relaunch d3vme at 4:00am

I've written stuff like what Grigory describes too. One is a Windows
Service that shutsdown D3 before Windows goes down, another is a tray
app, another is a desktop icon for manual fast shutdowns. All
available for the right price.

The D3 Tray was written a long time and I think it's still on the RD
freeware site. Not sure if it works on current platforms tho. Hey,
it's free, you want it to work too? ROFL

T


"GVP" wrote:

Hi Mark
I have always preached shutdown because I am naturally cautious and I only
discovered that the client was rebooting the NT way after several years so I
must have been lucky. Maybe that is something that should be explicit in
the manual. I am a little bemused why the D3 programmer sends the message
shutting down D3 when it isn't doing it correctly. C'est la vie.
Peter McMurray
"Mark Brown" <mbrown (AT) drexelmgt (DOT) com> wrote

Tony Gravagno wrote:
It does work on 7.4 - been using it on my system for a year or so. The
word was that it was going to be incorporated into a future release
(mind you, I've heard that before).

Geoff

oops, forgot the plug for QM.
Of course, this isn't an issue with QM - shuts itself down gracefully
when windows shuts down.

Geoff

An so do jBASE and Cache'MV just to name a few of the _OTHERS_ (a sort
of a LOST-inspired allusion)

just my 52 copecks
Nick

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