I know we are a dying breed, but are there any still out there?

I've just had to have my d3-Linux system re-installed & upgraded, and in
spit of copying my terminal definition from the old dm to the new one, I
*cannot* get the screen colours working properly.

Alan Pritchard

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What term type are you using?

Check devs file and see if it has definition for @(-33) thru @(-48).

For example, ANSI doesn't know colors, but ANSI.C does.

Mark Brown


"Alan Pritchard" <alan.pritchard (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

In article <r1z9g.2477$G95.1028 (AT) tornado (DOT) socal.rr.com>,
mbrown (AT) drexelmgt (DOT) com (Mark Brown) wrote:

I'm using a copy of ANSI.C. I am puzzled, though, that this does not now
include Yellow as a colour. Previously I had yellow on my screen for data
in fields.

Alan Pritchard

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My only suggestion is to check the Devices item.

First 4 or 5 lines for general definition

The lines that stat with D are @(-NN) definitions and -1 starts the first
line after =S and you just count down. There's a =X line to define the
start of @(-99) so you don't have to have a hundred blank lines

To include hex characters, enter X'hh' where hh = hex value

to include text, entr C ' text ' (separated for clearaty; no extra spaces

end each line with a <

Use D,< for the lines you want to ignore

You can use the @() keys for almost anything, define them to mean anything
useful. The examples are for example and to try to keep a certain standard.

So if you want CRT @(77) to print Kiss My... just find the line where -77
would go and put in

D,C'KISS MY ...',<

You may have to figure our what the particular color sequence is for your
particular term type.

I noticed that at some time, Pick/RD started distributing ANSI with @(-33)
and @(-34) set for delete/insert line.

I always use ANSI.C for color enabled ANSI terminals.

Mark Brown


"Alan Pritchard" <alan.pritchard (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Hi Alan,

Though I'm not actively using Creator anymore, I still have a system
with it installed - version 3.x IIRC.

As I recall, Creator uses it's own routines to print escape sequences
direct to the screen, i.e. it doesn't use the @(-x) cursor codes
straight out the box. I THINK these subroutines are found in the file
TERM.DEF or similar - possibly a subroutine called ENHANCEMENTS ??

Having said all that, I'm sure I modified our ANSI version to use @(-x)
codes - how I specified the colours we needed (of which Yellow was one)
I can't recall. I'll have a look at the old system for you.

Paul Stanley.

Alan
Are you saying you can't use Yellow at all? How about trying the
following on an ANSI terminal

EQU ESC TO CHAR(27)
PRINT ESC:"[0;1;33;40m"

Any text printed following this should be bold yellow on black.

Paul

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o_g_g_y (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (Oggy) wrote:

That would be very helpful, Paul.

Best wishes
Alan Pritchard MPhil FCLIP MBCS
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In article <1147900377.927256.215780 (AT) 38g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
o_g_g_y (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (Paul Stanley) wrote:


I've tried that program and I get a muddy brown colour. I'm using the
DEVICE ANSI.C as the basis, and the colour is consistent with this part of
the device:

046 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[37m',< -41 FOREGROUND - WHITE
047 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[33m',< -42 FOREGROUND - BROWN
048 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[35m',< -43 FOREGROUND - MAGENTA
049 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[31m',< -44 FOREGROUND - RED
050 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[36m',< -45 FOREGROUND - CYAN
051 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[32m',< -46 FOREGROUND - GREEN
052 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[34m',< -47 FOREGROUND - BLUE
053 D,X'1B',C'[1m',X'1B',C'[30m',< -48 FOREGROUND - BLACK

No mention of Yellow!

Very odd as all the references to ANSI colours give '33' as Yellow

It is the same with Background colours:

d3 ANSI.C

039 D,X'1B',C'[43m',< -34 BACKGROUND - BROWN

All other references I can find give 43 as Yellow.

Where I then have problems with Creator is that when I put these codes
into the Terminal Definition screen (Colours Field 19), if you remember
that, I cannot get anything to change

Alan

Alan Pritchard

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In article <1147900377.927256.215780 (AT) 38g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
o_g_g_y (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (Paul Stanley) wrote:

Hi Paul,

As a follow-up to this, I have just been looking at the DEVICES record for
'd3-mon'.

This also has the same problems as ANSI.C, i.e. 33 = is defined as BROWN

Does this mean that there is something in Linux below the d3 virtual
machine that is redefining ANSI 33 as Brown, rather than Yellow?

Alan Pritchard

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Hi Alan

I always thought that dirty brown was just low intensity yellow, so you
need to specify the "hi-colour" code to get yellow, but from your
ANSI.C settings, it would appear this is being done (the [1m in your
definition).

I'm guessing you're using the console ... does yellow work if you login
via a terminal emulator using ANSI?

Paul.