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stuey
 
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Default Changes at Raining Data - 11-24-2006 , 06:41 AM






Anyone got any further information on this one:

Form 8-K for RAINING DATA CORP


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17-Nov-2006

Change in Directors or Principal Officers



Item 5.02. Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of
Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements
of Certain Officers.

(b) On November 15, 2006, Raining Data Corporation (the "Company")
notified Mark Allen, its Vice President, Product Development and
Customer Service, Pick and Omnis Products, and Mario I. Barrenechea,
its Senior Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Pick and
Omnis Products, that their employment with the Company will be
terminated effective November 17, 2006.



as reported here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061117/rdta8-k.html


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douglas@pickteam.com
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-24-2006 , 11:58 AM






Wow,

Good find. Mario has been their rep to the Pick community for years
now.

But, I have no idea what the real story is.

No 30 days notice, or anything!


stuey wrote:
Quote:
Anyone got any further information on this one:

Form 8-K for RAINING DATA CORP


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

17-Nov-2006

Change in Directors or Principal Officers



Item 5.02. Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of
Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements
of Certain Officers.

(b) On November 15, 2006, Raining Data Corporation (the "Company")
notified Mark Allen, its Vice President, Product Development and
Customer Service, Pick and Omnis Products, and Mario I. Barrenechea,
its Senior Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Pick and
Omnis Products, that their employment with the Company will be
terminated effective November 17, 2006.



as reported here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061117/rdta8-k.html


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Mike Wooding
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-24-2006 , 08:26 PM



"stuey" <swhiley (AT) zisk (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Anyone got any further information on this one:

Form 8-K for RAINING DATA CORP


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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17-Nov-2006

Change in Directors or Principal Officers



Item 5.02. Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of
Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements
of Certain Officers.

(b) On November 15, 2006, Raining Data Corporation (the "Company")
notified Mark Allen, its Vice President, Product Development and
Customer Service, Pick and Omnis Products, and Mario I. Barrenechea,
its Senior Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Pick and
Omnis Products, that their employment with the Company will be
terminated effective November 17, 2006.



as reported here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061117/rdta8-k.html
The timing seems to coincide with:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061114/rdta10qsb.html

and

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061114/latu089.html?.v=76

It seems more than a little coincidental that all this happened the day
after Fiscal Q2 financials were announced, but I've been wrong before.




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hbkeultjes@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-25-2006 , 07:39 AM



An old truism, companies don't go out of business because they don't
make a profit, they go out of business because they run out of cash.
By that measure RD will be around for a long time yet.

Henry Keultjes
hbkeultjes at earthlink dot net

Mike Wooding wrote:

Quote:
The timing seems to coincide with:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061114/rdta10qsb.html

and

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061114/latu089.html?.v=76

It seems more than a little coincidental that all this happened the day
after Fiscal Q2 financials were announced, but I've been wrong before.


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Jeff Caspari
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-25-2006 , 07:42 AM



I'm guessing the lack of any significant sales of TigerLogic upon which RD
has staked their future was the cause.

"stuey" <swhiley (AT) zisk (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Anyone got any further information on this one:

Form 8-K for RAINING DATA CORP


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------

17-Nov-2006

Change in Directors or Principal Officers



Item 5.02. Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of
Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements
of Certain Officers.

(b) On November 15, 2006, Raining Data Corporation (the "Company")
notified Mark Allen, its Vice President, Product Development and
Customer Service, Pick and Omnis Products, and Mario I. Barrenechea,
its Senior Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Pick and
Omnis Products, that their employment with the Company will be
terminated effective November 17, 2006.



as reported here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061117/rdta8-k.html




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GVP
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-25-2006 , 10:52 AM



They try to repeat existing. Catching up always loses. They should
create new.

Pick was one of leaders, because it was something new. Now all
differently.

(Excuse me for my bad English. I hope that my idea is clear)


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Ross Ferris
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-26-2006 , 06:36 PM



This is the "Australian Curse" - an RD EXEC comes to Australia, and is
then fired 2-3 weeks after their return (Mario was here for
Spectrum!!). Last victims were Rich Laurer & Tim Holland IIRC


stuey wrote:
Quote:
Anyone got any further information on this one:

Form 8-K for RAINING DATA CORP


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

17-Nov-2006

Change in Directors or Principal Officers



Item 5.02. Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of
Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements
of Certain Officers.

(b) On November 15, 2006, Raining Data Corporation (the "Company")
notified Mark Allen, its Vice President, Product Development and
Customer Service, Pick and Omnis Products, and Mario I. Barrenechea,
its Senior Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Pick and
Omnis Products, that their employment with the Company will be
terminated effective November 17, 2006.



as reported here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061117/rdta8-k.html


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dawn
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-26-2006 , 09:34 PM



Ah, so that's it. Perhaps we should tell future RD Spectrum in Aus
folks not to submit their ACTUAL expenses. Just what places are you
recommending to them, Ross?

On a more serious note, from my somewhat distant viewing spot, this
looks like a significant removal of remaining Pick resources from RD.
I think RD might have had something really good with TigerLogic both
technically and from a standpoint of seeding the market if they had
taken the Pick world with them instead of turning their backs--quite
the missed opportunity from my perspective.

With these two men gone, I suspect that RD is almost completely
irrelevant from the perspective of the MV community at this point, but
I'm curious if current RD customers agree with that assessment.
--dawn

Ross Ferris wrote:
Quote:
This is the "Australian Curse" - an RD EXEC comes to Australia, and is
then fired 2-3 weeks after their return (Mario was here for
Spectrum!!). Last victims were Rich Laurer & Tim Holland IIRC


stuey wrote:
Anyone got any further information on this one:

Form 8-K for RAINING DATA CORP


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

17-Nov-2006

Change in Directors or Principal Officers



Item 5.02. Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of
Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements
of Certain Officers.

(b) On November 15, 2006, Raining Data Corporation (the "Company")
notified Mark Allen, its Vice President, Product Development and
Customer Service, Pick and Omnis Products, and Mario I. Barrenechea,
its Senior Vice President, Worldwide Sales and Marketing, Pick and
Omnis Products, that their employment with the Company will be
terminated effective November 17, 2006.



as reported here:

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061117/rdta8-k.html


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douglas@pickteam.com
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-26-2006 , 11:40 PM



Dawn,

Most of my clients are on D3. I don't see this having any affect.

Mario didn't do any development or support work. And I believe he had
a pretty high salary.

Until they start chopping support and development, I am not going to
panic.

Douglas


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stuey
 
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Default Re: Changes at Raining Data - 11-27-2006 , 05:09 AM




douglas (AT) pickteam (DOT) com wrote:
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Dawn,

Most of my clients are on D3. I don't see this having any affect.

Mario didn't do any development or support work. And I believe he had
a pretty high salary.

Until they start chopping support and development, I am not going to
panic.

Douglas
But it was not Just Mario, Mark Allen went at the same time!



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