1) I think your estimate is completely on the wild and low side - but
are you talking of applications sold by VARs or live sites. If someone
could unbundle the RD maintenance revenues, you could get a better
guess at how many they have on maintenance - which is probably 10% of
the installed base.

2) R83 was the great boon to mom&pop businesses that could write a
business aplication and use it and all for just the purchase of some
floppy disks. I came across someone the other day, in London, who was
running their stock control system on R83 on a 486 - why don't you
upgrade says I - why says he, it still works!! (a flavour of "if it
aint broke...")

3) By and large, PICK vendors are unfaithful. They write generic code
and sell UV, Unidata, D3 - whatever, at the time, appears more
beneficial; and they have no scruples about what they sell.

Another 2p!


Jeff Caspari wrote:

You're right that this should not be the experience one should get at
a show. You have to remember that very frequently "booth babes" are
just there to pass out literature or to pass you to the right person
to answer your real questions. All companies approach this
differently, some companies prefer to have booths stocked with people
who can answer any question on any topic, but then again, getting
these people out of the office and into a booth can be difficult,
especially when there's no real justification for being at the show in
the first place. RD used to have a good mix of people for shows -
when they employed a good mix of people that is. LOL

When RD decides who their next senior marketing person is going to be,
interested parties might want to express their concern for lack of
ability for company reps to discuss offerings, or their lack of
interest for pursuing sales.


"dawn" wrote:
TigerLogic and Pick are completely unrelated, that's why they don't
discuss them together. I've said this a number of times before.
Pretend they're two completely different companies and you won't feel
like you're beating your head against a wall. The fact that TL has
some MV core embedded is inconsequential. If you need an XML
repository, look into TL. If you need to integrate that with MV, ask
the TL people about external interfaces and then write your own
connectivity for MV, as you would for Oracle or SQL Server. I believe
Java is their preferred tool.


Well, if they actually knew you they would know that you typically ask
a lot of theoretical questions that don't lead to sales. The fact
that they didn't know you but came to the right conclusion is either
luck or you were speaking with someone who was unusually perceptive.
(Sorry, note the smiley!!)

Seriously, the fact that you mix TL and Pick at all sort of puts you
in a specific category of people who ask a lot of Pick related
questions about TL. They know that you'll eventutally come to the
conclusion that they are not related and that you probably aren't
interested in TL after all. They've been through a ton of this sort
of enquiry and they know better than to pursue it - for better or
worse.


The recent changes at RD had nothing to do with these things, but if
anyone is seriously interested in RD products or direction, then now
is probably a good time to get your name in the queue to renew your
association, have your comments heard, and your questions answered.


I'm really surprised RD was at that show at all. It's no wonder they
couldn't offer you anything, they don't have anything to offer the U2
market.

T

Tony Gravagno wrote:
<snip>
No time to respond to the entirety and some confidentiality also
prohibits a full explanation, but I believe he said that it was the IBM
database conference, and DB2 has some very big customers. I'm certain
that the U2 audience was not their target audience. But with IBM's new
version of their database (Viper IIRC), there might not be a need for a
site to have both DB2 and TigerLogic. --dawn