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Steve Mattson
 
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Default Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 07:32 AM






Hi all,

We are running mvBASE on and NT Server over a local area network (Viaduct
2000 is our terminal emulator). Our scheduling system has a lot of reports
which can be displayed to analyze bottlenecks and other delivery problems.
It is very cumbersome to move from report to report by exiting to the menu
and selecting another report.

I have seen some browser based reporting which looks promising. My question;
is Raining Data's Flash Connect available for mvBASE? Or, is there some
other product which can take advantage of the browser's ability to drill
down to a new page, and *backup* to a previous page?

Thank you for your input.

Steve



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hRodstein
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 08:32 AM






Try COYOTE/PicLan from Modular Software. It is an mv-based web browser that
works like a charm in MvBase.


"Steve Mattson" <smatts (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
Hi all,

We are running mvBASE on and NT Server over a local area network (Viaduct
2000 is our terminal emulator). Our scheduling system has a lot of reports
which can be displayed to analyze bottlenecks and other delivery problems.
It is very cumbersome to move from report to report by exiting to the menu
and selecting another report.

I have seen some browser based reporting which looks promising. My
question;
is Raining Data's Flash Connect available for mvBASE? Or, is there some
other product which can take advantage of the browser's ability to drill
down to a new page, and *backup* to a previous page?

Thank you for your input.

Steve





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Jeffrey Kaufman
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 08:53 AM



Web Wizard works on any flavor of Pick.
www.eris-corp.com



"Steve Mattson" <smatts (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
Hi all,

We are running mvBASE on and NT Server over a local area network (Viaduct
2000 is our terminal emulator). Our scheduling system has a lot of reports
which can be displayed to analyze bottlenecks and other delivery problems.
It is very cumbersome to move from report to report by exiting to the menu
and selecting another report.

I have seen some browser based reporting which looks promising. My
question;
is Raining Data's Flash Connect available for mvBASE? Or, is there some
other product which can take advantage of the browser's ability to drill
down to a new page, and *backup* to a previous page?

Thank you for your input.

Steve





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Steve Mattson
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 11:57 AM



Thank you for your input. I will check them out.

Steve



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dave johnstone
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 02:42 PM



"Steve Mattson" <smatts (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
Hi all,

We are running mvBASE on and NT Server over a local area network (Viaduct
2000 is our terminal emulator). Our scheduling system has a lot of reports
which can be displayed to analyze bottlenecks and other delivery problems.
It is very cumbersome to move from report to report by exiting to the menu
and selecting another report.

I have seen some browser based reporting which looks promising. My question;
is Raining Data's Flash Connect available for mvBASE? Or, is there some
other product which can take advantage of the browser's ability to drill
down to a new page, and *backup* to a previous page?

Thank you for your input.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Have a look at this example at:
http://mail.thetotal.co.nz:7301/PixieInfo/index.htm, and look at the
book search, for a drill-down technique running live over the
internet. All ASP scripts to run something like this are available for
free. Runs well on mvBase.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Dave Johnstone. (Ph: 519-571-1432 - temp Canada)
HTML and PixieWare the new GUI for PICK
http://www.pixieware.com mailto:dave (AT) pixieware (DOT) com


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Tony Gravagno
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 03:15 PM



Per a marketing bulletin from 11/2002, FlashCONNECT is available for
mvBASE. I've searched the RD web site and I'll be hanged if I can
find any reference to this. The "Available For" notes don't specify
platforms and the platform pages only mention D3. HELLO?!

Anyway, Steve - FlashCONNECT is not a report generator, same goes for
Coyote. These utilities (1) interfaces which facilitate MV handling
of HTTP queries. (2) They allow you to wrap data in HTML when the UI
is a browser. There is no automatic wrapping of report data,
formatting of header/footers, or paging routines which might be
expected in a "report generator", though that code CAN be written
using these tools. (3) While not generally recognized, Coyote and
FlashCONNECT can serve up lots of different kinds of content, not just
HTML. Examples include data interfaces with Java, ColdFusion, ASP,
Flash ActionScript or Shockwave Lingo, etc. These are great products
for serving data through the HTTP pipeline, they just happen to also
include a lot of handling for HTML which is the primary rendering
language used with HTTP.

SO... If you'd like something more sexy than plain old HTML for your
browser (Java, Full ActiveX controls, etc), look into FlashCONNECT and
Coyote. My experience is with FlashCONNECT so I use that for
development and I'll be happy to help if I can. Your existing reports
will need a major UI re-fit no matter which tool you use.

If you are just looking to export your existing text documents as PDF,
that can be exported through a browser without any special MV/HTTP
interfaces, but the volume of data might make that cumbersome.

HTH.
Tony
TG (AT) removethispartNebula-RnD (DOT) com


"Steve Mattson" <smatts (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote:

Quote:
Hi all,

We are running mvBASE on and NT Server over a local area network (Viaduct
2000 is our terminal emulator). Our scheduling system has a lot of reports
which can be displayed to analyze bottlenecks and other delivery problems.
It is very cumbersome to move from report to report by exiting to the menu
and selecting another report.

I have seen some browser based reporting which looks promising. My question;
is Raining Data's Flash Connect available for mvBASE? Or, is there some
other product which can take advantage of the browser's ability to drill
down to a new page, and *backup* to a previous page?

Thank you for your input.

Steve



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Patrick Payne
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-24-2003 , 03:59 PM



None of the web packages will CREATE the report idea for you. What
you are really looking at is HTML. HTML was originally designed to
display reports/documents. What you need to do is learn HTML and
create your drill down reports. All the packages mentioned will allow
you to create the html, but in reality (based on how real-time you
need the data) you may not even need them. For real speed, you
usually have to re-engineer your data to have the summary information
already produced. Browsers usually do not like a wait to
select/create your next drill down of data. Your choice here are:

#1: Create static content. I.E. run a nightly process that creates
all your reports. You can just write them out to dos and the normal
ASP web server can serve them up. Issue: Not real time

#2: Use a web product that will allow you to build on the fly the html
reports from within pick. Issue: You can still run into timing issues
if your reports take too long to create. Plus - you may have issues
where multiple users are selecting reports and slowing down your
system.

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Mike Preece
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-25-2003 , 04:55 AM



Tony Gravagno <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote

Quote:
Per a marketing bulletin from 11/2002, FlashCONNECT is available for
mvBASE. I've searched the RD web site and I'll be hanged if I can
find any reference to this. The "Available For" notes don't specify
platforms and the platform pages only mention D3. HELLO?!
I'm sure I've seen something (else) somewhere from RD saying it *is*
available already for mvBase although according to
http://www.rainingdata.com/products/...fcprodinfo.htm it's
going to be available soon. Some clarification would seem to be in
order.

<minor gripe>This is the sort of thing where we could do with RD's
active participation in CDP - or maybe we should direct people to the
RD forum at http://forums.rainingdata.com/index.php?showforum=19 ? Btw
- someone I was talking to today (uses UniVerse but I was showing him
FlashCONNECT anyway) mentioned he had difficulty obtaining
"permission" to participate in the RD forums. Shame about that. It's
not really ideal when someone who could possibly be a RD customer is
unable to participate in the forums where he could (should?) be able
to get answers to whatever questions he might have.</minor gripe>

Cheers
Mike.


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Terry Strachan
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-25-2003 , 06:53 AM




"Mike Preece" <michael (AT) preece (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Tony Gravagno <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote

Per a marketing bulletin from 11/2002, FlashCONNECT is available for
mvBASE. I've searched the RD web site and I'll be hanged if I can
find any reference to this. The "Available For" notes don't specify
platforms and the platform pages only mention D3. HELLO?!

I'm sure I've seen something (else) somewhere from RD saying it *is*
available already for mvBase although according to
http://www.rainingdata.com/products/...fcprodinfo.htm it's
going to be available soon. Some clarification would seem to be in
order.


I am testing mvDesigner and FlashConnect on mvBase 2 at the moment. So I
think its fairly safe to say - yes it is available for mvBase. However, I
will agree - all of (well 99% of) the documentation I have references D3 and
not mvBase.

Terry.




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frosty
 
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Default Re: Browser based report generators - 09-25-2003 , 05:55 PM



Quote:
Steve Mattson wrote:
Hi all,

We are running mvBASE on and NT Server over a local area network
(Viaduct 2000 is our terminal emulator). Our scheduling system has a
lot of reports which can be displayed to analyze bottlenecks and
other delivery problems. It is very cumbersome to move from report
to report by exiting to the menu and selecting another report.

I have seen some browser based reporting which looks promising. My
question; is Raining Data's Flash Connect available for mvBASE? Or,
is there some other product which can take advantage of the
browser's ability to drill down to a new page, and *backup* to a
previous page?

Thank you for your input.

Steve
dave johnstone wrote:
Quote:
Hi Steve,

Have a look at this example at:
http://mail.thetotal.co.nz:7301/PixieInfo/index.htm, and look at the
book search, for a drill-down technique running live over the
internet. All ASP scripts to run something like this are available for
free. Runs well on mvBase.

Thanks.

Sincerely,
Dave Johnstone. (Ph: 519-571-1432 - temp Canada)
HTML and PixieWare the new GUI for PICK
http://www.pixieware.com mailto:dave (AT) pixieware (DOT) com
Dave, I don't see a "book search" link at that page. I see:

Field-by-Field Example "CRM" (IE5/above) - Many GUI features.
Free source code for this menu system for PixieLink and PixieWeb.
Field-by-Field Examples (IE4/above or Netscape6/above) - A serious business
application.
Book Catalogue - a search example
Stock Lookup by Product code - a search example
Stock Search in "Internet style" - a search example

Is one of these the "book search" with the drill-down technique
to which you referred?

-- jet




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