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"Rick Weiser" <rickw (AT) designbais (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1142705890.676678.69050 (AT) i39g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... Bob, I disagree with you on selling into a non-Pick shop. If you have an application running PICK and the application is strong, it simply beats the competion. If the potential customer wants to be in a Relational DB there are plenty of options in the MV world to get you there. There are at least 2 (probably more) that support relational files, jBASE and OnWare. Both are tested and work. So, now you have the ablilty to sell your legacy application into a varity of databases and the customer probably doesn't even care that you are using a middleware product to get there. This approach opens us old pick guys to markets that we were never able to get into before which in turn increases the MV marketplace. So, saying that "I could not in good conscience sell a Pick based system to a customer who was not already running Pick." is silly when it could open your application up to customer who would never look at you before. Again, just my 2 cents, Rick And the DC-3 is still a good airplane. When you are gone and the customer wants some changes he's going to have some trouble finding someone who knows how to find the hooks. Yes, even if it were written in VB he would still have some trouble - but not as much and it wouldn't be as a result of having bought an obsolete product. There is no question that the vertical packages that we see on this group are good - perhaps the best. And there is no question that they are very cost effective. But are you being fair to a customer who finds himself in a position of not being able to install on a new version of Windows because there is nobody around who can make the minor change to jBase or UV or whatever. And are you being fair to yourself if you don't keep up with the "main stream" whatever that is. In a way it is self correcting. When a Pick system is fully compatible with SQL then it IS SQL. It might store the data slightly differently - read better - but that difference will be the source of heartburn some day. We all know that Lemmings don't really commit suicide but the "main stream" world sure looks a lot like the classic image of Lemmings running off the cliff. That massive stream of little animals is impossible to stop. Bottom line is simple. We're between a rock and a hard spot. Two of the more respected members of this group appear to be making the transition but they (wisely) are not making too much noise about it. Several others are notable by their absence. They could be flipping burgers but I suspect that they are building and selling good products using another platform. Remember the good old days when prospects were very easy to find and sales were limited by our ability to deliver, install and train. In 1983 we showed an incomplete product in a hotel room at a trade show using a DataMedia 4mhz computer with 19.2 mb disk - and finished the evening with five large deposit checks. I guess I better stop rambling and open VS2005. BobJ |
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I think jBASE will be well on the way toward regaining it's proper place in this market |
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And your competitor charges 4 times the amount and so gets paid 40 times the amount and your customers pay his bills - who wins? Looks like the competitor <grin |
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I think jBASE will be well on the way toward regaining it's proper place in this market Though with Jim now @ Cache, and inroads by products like Northgate/Reality (read/write to "foreign SQL/ODBC databases out of the box), plus the extended gestation period of 4.1, some of the original attractive gloss may have diminished (I wonder if Jim will tout the benefits of pCode portability of M[v]s compiled code for a specific target platform ?) |
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