We are in a bind because of hardware issues and need to upgrade our
AIX OS but are having a problem upgrading some of our D3 applications
from 7.3 to 7.4. That may force us to stay with 7.3 version of D3. I
believe Tiger Logic has not certified 7.3 to run on anything higher
than AIX 5. I am wondering if anyone out there knows whether D3 7.3
can run on AIX 6.1 or 7.0.

Thanks for any help on this.

On Mar 30, 10:50*am, bontemps <jontan_... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Thank you for your reply, Tony. The details of our bind have to do
with a Pick product that uses vendor ABS with assmbler modes. We're
having problems getting an working updated version of that product
including a new set of abs modes that works in 7.4 with the 4k frame
size etc. So we're sort of stuck at 7.3 until we can sort that mess
out. That's why I was wondering if we could just replace our hardware
and OS leaving D3 as is.

I completely forgot about that situation. (And that reminds me that I
have some assembler work to do to get sites on v9, but it doesn't
sound like you're waiting on me...)

New options (not all mutually exclusive):

If you have the source to the modes, get someone else to make the
changes.

If not, you might want to consider leaving that tool. I understand
how that could be a problem and this may not be pragmatic or
desirable. FYI, it is possible to get some functionality from BASIC
where previously it was thought that it was only possible with
assembler.

Petition your vendor to get TL to help them make the required changes.
It might cost them or you some money to do that, but you're in a tight
bind here and it might be worth a few hundred or even a few thousand
dollars to you to get out of the bind.

Please feel free to email to discuss.

HTH
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
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bontemps wrote:

On Mar 31, 2:43*pm, Tony Gravagno <tony_grava... (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid>
wrote:
Option 1 is what we're hoping for. We have the source code and have
been in contact with someone who is very familiar with it even though
he does not own the rights to it. So we're hoping we can just hire him
to make the modifications. But its good to know you are an assmebler
coder as well and may be able to help us, correct? In the meantime we
may load aix 6.1 and d3 7.3 on a test box just to see if it works.
Thanks again.

You

bontemps wrote:
As long as you have the source, you're in good shape.

I could posture as an expert with PVA but then my credibility for
areas where I have real expertise would be diminished. Here's where I
stand. I can read Pick assembler and make small tweaks required for
porting code, but I do this so infrequently that I get rusty, need to
look up details, ask silly questions each time I sink my teeth into
it. I would offer my services in this focused area as a last resort
to someone who felt they didn't have too many more options - at least
you know you have a "hail Mary" play that you can call upon.

Not to be completely self-deprecating, my value-add in such projects
is that I can manage the project, understand the details, and I have
resources that I can call upon to see it through. In short, I can
deliver a solution without your having to get involved in all of the
details.

Again, being as frank as possible here, this kind of work is Very time
consuming, and that inflates the cost of such projects, perhaps to at
least double the time of other projects. Further, the expertise
required is so focused that the hourly rate is higher than normal
development. You need to be prepared for that. I present these
simply as facts of this narrow realm of business.

Having said all that, my respected mentor and recommended solution
provider in this area would be Mark Brown, currently at Drexel
Management, formerly Manager of Continuing Engineering at Pick Systems
/ Raining Data. When I get stuck, he's the guy I call. There are
only a few other people in the world today who are both competent and
willing to provide D3 virtual assembler development services. Get
Mark onboard if you can.

HTH
T

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
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