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Default Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-08-2003 , 11:05 AM






I would be interested in hearing from anyone using mvDesigner and mvBase

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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-11-2003 , 12:50 PM






You may have better luck posting this in RD's mvD list.

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"Rich" <richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com> wrote

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I would be interested in hearing from anyone using mvDesigner and mvBase



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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-11-2003 , 12:51 PM



You may have better luck posting this in RD's mvD list.

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"Rich" <richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com> wrote

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I would be interested in hearing from anyone using mvDesigner and mvBase




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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-13-2003 , 06:26 AM



"Lance" <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote

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You may have better luck posting this in RD's mvD list.

Lance du Toit
"Rich" <richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:311e4495.0310080805.22a374d7 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I would be interested in hearing from anyone using mvDesigner and mvBase
Lance, tried the RD forums, no luck there either. I am beginning to
think the product has no future.


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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-13-2003 , 04:22 PM



Contact RD Marketing for a referral (or have your VAR do so). They
had to have some business reason for porting FlashCONNECT and mvD to
mvBase, so you'll probably find some sites.

I haven't seen you post to the RD e-mail forums: mvDesigner-list and
mvBase-list. Seems to me that's where you'll actually find colleagues
using the software.

Personally I wouldn't get hung up trying to find someone with the same
configuration that you're running. mvD works pretty much the same
with all platforms. If there are issues contact RD, if there aren't
then just write and sell your software. Maybe you ARE a pioneer...


Tony

richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com (Rich) wrote:

Quote:
"Lance" <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote

You may have better luck posting this in RD's mvD list.

Lance du Toit
"Rich" <richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:311e4495.0310080805.22a374d7 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I would be interested in hearing from anyone using mvDesigner and mvBase

Lance, tried the RD forums, no luck there either. I am beginning to
think the product has no future.


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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-14-2003 , 11:39 AM



Tony Gravagno <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote

Quote:
Contact RD Marketing for a referral (or have your VAR do so). They
had to have some business reason for porting FlashCONNECT and mvD to
mvBase, so you'll probably find some sites.

I haven't seen you post to the RD e-mail forums: mvDesigner-list and
mvBase-list. Seems to me that's where you'll actually find colleagues
using the software.

Personally I wouldn't get hung up trying to find someone with the same
configuration that you're running. mvD works pretty much the same
with all platforms. If there are issues contact RD, if there aren't
then just write and sell your software. Maybe you ARE a pioneer...


Tony

richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com (Rich) wrote:
Tony, we are a VAR and we post on the RD forum with a name of
Calidore. I am trying to ascertain where mvD and mvBase are going.
When we took the product earlier this year the mvbase version had a
very basic flaw in that it would not let you insert a multi-valued
list in to a form but the D3 version did.I have never seen a patch for
this fix publically announced theredfore we must be the only ones who
have it, how is anyone else working? I want to talk to other users and
see how they are progressing and what support they are getting from
RD.

Quote:
"Lance" <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote

You may have better luck posting this in RD's mvD list.

Lance du Toit
"Rich" <richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:311e4495.0310080805.22a374d7 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I would be interested in hearing from anyone using mvDesigner and mvBase

Lance, tried the RD forums, no luck there either. I am beginning to
think the product has no future.

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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-14-2003 , 07:37 PM



Richard, I posted an inquiry to the mvdesigner-list (e-mail forum) on
your behalf. About 20 minutes later, Pierre Trinephi, the Product
Manager, posted that the list bug was fixed for the current mvD 2.1
release. As a VAR you could have called or e-mailed RD Support to get
that status information.

Granted, it's not easy to find this sort of info on your own. RD
appears to be burying mvD into FlashCONNECT as part of their new Hide
and Seek product feature initiative. (They hide product changes and
you have to figure out what they changed - isn't that fun!?) They
announced last month that FC 3.2 was available but didn't mention mvD
2.1. The mvDesigner documentation pages only mention mvD 2.0, and the
mvD info is included in FC 3.0 documentation. The release notes from
FC 3.2 include this Resolution for mvD: "28432 Corrected a problem on
mvBase where returning multiple column data only returns the first
column." That may be the issue which gave you grief initially. If
you filed that action item, you can always check with RD Support for
the status. If that is not the issue you had, I suggest putting in a
new call to Support, which is your right as a VAR.

I have no idea what the future of mvD is for mvBase or any other
platform. That's a marketing issue which I suggest you take up with
RD rather than in public forums. In my inquiry I also asked for other
mvBase users to reply to your web forum posting.

Good luck,
Tony

richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com (Rich) wrote:
Quote:
Tony, we are a VAR and we post on the RD forum with a name of
Calidore. I am trying to ascertain where mvD and mvBase are going.
When we took the product earlier this year the mvbase version had a
very basic flaw in that it would not let you insert a multi-valued
list in to a form but the D3 version did.I have never seen a patch for
this fix publically announced theredfore we must be the only ones who
have it, how is anyone else working? I want to talk to other users and
see how they are progressing and what support they are getting from
RD.


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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-14-2003 , 10:48 PM



Tony said <<I have no idea what the future of mvD is for mvBase or any other
platform. That's a marketing issue which I suggest you take up with
RD rather than in public forums.>>

I read this a different way; I got the impression that he wanted to get a
feel for what the rest of us thought about mvDesigner (essentially, were any
of us using it?), which would not be a marketing issue. If the consensus
was that it wasn't worth our time, maybe he shouldn't waste his resources on
it either; on the other hand, if we all loved it, maybe he should continue
as he has been doing. Marketing will probably tell you it's the greatest
thing since swiss cheese <g>. Personally, I haven't used it, so my comments
are just from an "understanding" point of view. Or, I might be all wet.

Ron

"Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote

Quote:
Richard, I posted an inquiry to the mvdesigner-list (e-mail forum) on
your behalf. About 20 minutes later, Pierre Trinephi, the Product
Manager, posted that the list bug was fixed for the current mvD 2.1
release. As a VAR you could have called or e-mailed RD Support to get
that status information.

Granted, it's not easy to find this sort of info on your own. RD
appears to be burying mvD into FlashCONNECT as part of their new Hide
and Seek product feature initiative. (They hide product changes and
you have to figure out what they changed - isn't that fun!?) They
announced last month that FC 3.2 was available but didn't mention mvD
2.1. The mvDesigner documentation pages only mention mvD 2.0, and the
mvD info is included in FC 3.0 documentation. The release notes from
FC 3.2 include this Resolution for mvD: "28432 Corrected a problem on
mvBase where returning multiple column data only returns the first
column." That may be the issue which gave you grief initially. If
you filed that action item, you can always check with RD Support for
the status. If that is not the issue you had, I suggest putting in a
new call to Support, which is your right as a VAR.

I have no idea what the future of mvD is for mvBase or any other
platform. That's a marketing issue which I suggest you take up with
RD rather than in public forums. In my inquiry I also asked for other
mvBase users to reply to your web forum posting.

Good luck,
Tony

richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com (Rich) wrote:
Tony, we are a VAR and we post on the RD forum with a name of
Calidore. I am trying to ascertain where mvD and mvBase are going.
When we took the product earlier this year the mvbase version had a
very basic flaw in that it would not let you insert a multi-valued
list in to a form but the D3 version did.I have never seen a patch for
this fix publically announced theredfore we must be the only ones who
have it, how is anyone else working? I want to talk to other users and
see how they are progressing and what support they are getting from
RD.




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Default Re: Anybody developing with mvDesigner????? - 10-15-2003 , 06:21 PM



I understood that aspect of his inquiry as well and I need to shut up
so that a real user can get a word in on the topic. I was
responding to his quote "I am trying to ascertain where mvD and mvBase
are going." If he gets no responses from colleagues then we can
assume there is no demand for mvD with mvBase and it's likely that RD
will not support unused software at some future date. That brings us
back to RD Marketing - yes, in addition to peer responses.

Said my piece, thanks.
Tony

"ron walenciak" <ron.walenciak (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
Tony said <<I have no idea what the future of mvD is for mvBase or any other
platform. That's a marketing issue which I suggest you take up with
RD rather than in public forums.

I read this a different way; I got the impression that he wanted to get a
feel for what the rest of us thought about mvDesigner (essentially, were any
of us using it?), which would not be a marketing issue. If the consensus
was that it wasn't worth our time, maybe he shouldn't waste his resources on
it either; on the other hand, if we all loved it, maybe he should continue
as he has been doing. Marketing will probably tell you it's the greatest
thing since swiss cheese <g>. Personally, I haven't used it, so my comments
are just from an "understanding" point of view. Or, I might be all wet.

Ron

"Tony Gravagno" <g6q3x9lu53001 (AT) sneakemail (DOT) com.invalid> wrote in message
news:epuoov4ucbipahv4mh5qi19v536navdds8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
Richard, I posted an inquiry to the mvdesigner-list (e-mail forum) on
your behalf. About 20 minutes later, Pierre Trinephi, the Product
Manager, posted that the list bug was fixed for the current mvD 2.1
release. As a VAR you could have called or e-mailed RD Support to get
that status information.

Granted, it's not easy to find this sort of info on your own. RD
appears to be burying mvD into FlashCONNECT as part of their new Hide
and Seek product feature initiative. (They hide product changes and
you have to figure out what they changed - isn't that fun!?) They
announced last month that FC 3.2 was available but didn't mention mvD
2.1. The mvDesigner documentation pages only mention mvD 2.0, and the
mvD info is included in FC 3.0 documentation. The release notes from
FC 3.2 include this Resolution for mvD: "28432 Corrected a problem on
mvBase where returning multiple column data only returns the first
column." That may be the issue which gave you grief initially. If
you filed that action item, you can always check with RD Support for
the status. If that is not the issue you had, I suggest putting in a
new call to Support, which is your right as a VAR.

I have no idea what the future of mvD is for mvBase or any other
platform. That's a marketing issue which I suggest you take up with
RD rather than in public forums. In my inquiry I also asked for other
mvBase users to reply to your web forum posting.

Good luck,
Tony

richard (AT) calidore (DOT) com (Rich) wrote:
Tony, we are a VAR and we post on the RD forum with a name of
Calidore. I am trying to ascertain where mvD and mvBase are going.
When we took the product earlier this year the mvbase version had a
very basic flaw in that it would not let you insert a multi-valued
list in to a form but the D3 version did.I have never seen a patch for
this fix publically announced theredfore we must be the only ones who
have it, how is anyone else working? I want to talk to other users and
see how they are progressing and what support they are getting from
RD.




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