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Default 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 04-30-2007 , 08:36 PM






First, correct me if I am wrong, but this New Year's Eve is 40 years
since Day 0, right?

Does anyone have any good ideas for some sort of celebration, perhaps
calling it MV's 40th b'day? I'll ask on u2-community too and if some
of you are known to the jbase, d3, or revelation lists, perhaps you
can pass the question along.

I picture something where MV vendors, VARs, and customers could (and
would) participate in some, perhaps small, way that together would
make a bigger-than-our-usual noise within the s/w industry. This is a
bad idea, but it might get your creative juices flowing -- each
participant could have an e-mail sent to ComputerWorld or some other
mainstream industry publication when their machine says it is 40 years
since Day 0, with a short message from that site about using MV,
ending with Happy Birthday, Pick! or some such.

Another idea would be to see if we could use some public forum, such
as a giant virtual birthday card, or the wiki that Sisk and co put
together, and let everyone know they can write a Happy Birthday
message there.

I realize that a single vendor could take over the idea of celebrating
40 years and do something on their own, but I would much rather see
something that spanned the entire community without a need for
considerable collaboration (the various DB vendors are competitors, of
course).

Any thoughts? --dawn


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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 04-30-2007 , 11:15 PM






My first thought was, "Dawn, you have too much time on your hands."

But sure. I'm up for a party. Let's have it at your house.

"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
First, correct me if I am wrong, but this New Year's Eve is 40 years
since Day 0, right?

Does anyone have any good ideas for some sort of celebration, perhaps
calling it MV's 40th b'day? I'll ask on u2-community too and if some
of you are known to the jbase, d3, or revelation lists, perhaps you
can pass the question along.

I picture something where MV vendors, VARs, and customers could (and
would) participate in some, perhaps small, way that together would
make a bigger-than-our-usual noise within the s/w industry. This is a
bad idea, but it might get your creative juices flowing -- each
participant could have an e-mail sent to ComputerWorld or some other
mainstream industry publication when their machine says it is 40 years
since Day 0, with a short message from that site about using MV,
ending with Happy Birthday, Pick! or some such.

Another idea would be to see if we could use some public forum, such
as a giant virtual birthday card, or the wiki that Sisk and co put
together, and let everyone know they can write a Happy Birthday
message there.

I realize that a single vendor could take over the idea of celebrating
40 years and do something on their own, but I would much rather see
something that spanned the entire community without a need for
considerable collaboration (the various DB vendors are competitors, of
course).

Any thoughts? --dawn




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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-01-2007 , 12:12 AM



The best gift is to make something new for MV.

Regards,
Grigory


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Ricky Ginsburg
 
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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-01-2007 , 06:27 AM



"Jeffrey Kaufman" <jkaufman (AT) keydata (DOT) us> wrote

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My first thought was, "Dawn, you have too much time on your hands."

But sure. I'm up for a party. Let's have it at your house.
Damn! We'll be in Jamaica again. Hey... let's have a party on the beach in
Negril!

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"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1177983361.056576.65380 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com...
First, correct me if I am wrong, but this New Year's Eve is 40 years
since Day 0, right?

Does anyone have any good ideas for some sort of celebration, perhaps
calling it MV's 40th b'day? I'll ask on u2-community too and if some
of you are known to the jbase, d3, or revelation lists, perhaps you
can pass the question along.

I picture something where MV vendors, VARs, and customers could (and
would) participate in some, perhaps small, way that together would
make a bigger-than-our-usual noise within the s/w industry. This is a
bad idea, but it might get your creative juices flowing -- each
participant could have an e-mail sent to ComputerWorld or some other
mainstream industry publication when their machine says it is 40 years
since Day 0, with a short message from that site about using MV,
ending with Happy Birthday, Pick! or some such.

Another idea would be to see if we could use some public forum, such
as a giant virtual birthday card, or the wiki that Sisk and co put
together, and let everyone know they can write a Happy Birthday
message there.

I realize that a single vendor could take over the idea of celebrating
40 years and do something on their own, but I would much rather see
something that spanned the entire community without a need for
considerable collaboration (the various DB vendors are competitors, of
course).

Any thoughts? --dawn






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hbkeultjes@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-01-2007 , 07:07 AM



On May 1, 12:15 am, "Jeffrey Kaufman" <jkauf... (AT) keydata (DOT) us> wrote:
Quote:
My first thought was, "Dawn, you have too much time on your hands."

But sure. I'm up for a party. Let's have it at your house.

Jeff:

You don't know that DAwn lives in NW Iowa? Meeting there in the
middle of the winter? I would not even wish that on Bill Gates!

Henry



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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-01-2007 , 07:12 AM



On May 1, 1:12 am, GVP <g... (AT) infotools (DOT) ru> wrote:
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The best gift is to make something new for MV.

Regards,
Grigory

GlobalDateTime (GDT) which is a derivative of the Pick date with the
major exception that it is based on the Modified Julian Date and that
it combines date and time into a single value that can, of course, be
parsed. GDT solves issues like DST and the upcoming Unix date
running out of digits.

Henry Keultjes
Database Scientifics Project http://www.ncolug.org/ppc.htm
Mansfield Ohio USA



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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-01-2007 , 08:37 AM



On May 1, 12:12 am, GVP <g... (AT) infotools (DOT) ru> wrote:
Quote:
The best gift is to make something new for MV.

Regards,
Grigory
That is, indeed, what I'm working on.

That said, I do think that mainstream "data processing" (the
profession once called such) is becoming less thrilled with the
bloated and constraining relational products so that there is a market
picking up. Of the MV players, only InterSystems seems to find
marketing sweet spots to get listed with Progress and others. See
http://www.dbms2.com/2007/04/18/nami...ms-disruptors/

--dawn



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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-01-2007 , 08:02 PM




<hbkeultjes (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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On May 1, 12:15 am, "Jeffrey Kaufman" <jkauf... (AT) keydata (DOT) us> wrote:
My first thought was, "Dawn, you have too much time on your hands."

But sure. I'm up for a party. Let's have it at your house.


Jeff:

You don't know that DAwn lives in NW Iowa? Meeting there in the
middle of the winter? I would not even wish that on Bill Gates!

Henry

HI
I always thought that Yanks were rich wasters because they heated their
GARAGES. Then I discovered that they heated them to ZERO so that the car
would start. Man I quit England because of the winter of '62. What is
really weird is when people say Tasmania is like England - we have unlagged
water pipes on the outside walls, try that in England or Iowa.
Peter McMurray
PS Dawn I will party anywhere you say




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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-02-2007 , 10:38 AM



On May 1, 8:02 pm, "Peter McMurray" <excalibu... (AT) bigpond (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
hbkeult... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178021279.156767.3920 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...> On May 1, 12:15 am, "Jeffrey Kaufman" <jkauf... (AT) keydata (DOT) us> wrote:
My first thought was, "Dawn, you have too much time on your hands."

But sure. I'm up for a party. Let's have it at your house.

Jeff:

You don't know that DAwn lives in NW Iowa? Meeting there in the
middle of the winter? I would not even wish that on Bill Gates!

Henry

HI
I always thought that Yanks were rich wasters because they heated their
GARAGES. Then I discovered that they heated them to ZERO so that the car
would start. Man I quit England because of the winter of '62. What is
really weird is when people say Tasmania is like England - we have unlagged
water pipes on the outside walls, try that in England or Iowa.
Peter McMurray
PS Dawn I will party anywhere you say
Then I would say we should all join Ricky in Jamaica.

But seriously folks (I don't know if I have ever used that phrase
before, hmmm), it seems like this could be an opportunity to get some
marketing for non-1NF, not-exclusively-SQL DBMS's. 40 years is a
significant milestone for a database and data model, especially one
where there are companies newly implementing that model. I would think
we could possibly have some fun in a big way that could be noticed by
the mainstream IT media. On the other hand, we could take a more
historically Pick approach to marketing, eh? --dawn



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Mark Brown
 
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Default Re: 40 years since day 0 -- celebration? - 05-02-2007 , 01:42 PM



Dawn,

We used to have one of these parties every year. They were called Spectrum.
We'd all get together, see what each other was up to, party at night. And
Dick's famous Distributor meetings in Maui and Las Vegas. Now there was a
guy who knew how to party.

There used to be articles in Computer News and other niche printings. There
used to be success stories and speeches and whatnot to rouse up the audience
and get the Pick bandwagon moving.

Now we have this forum where no one really brags about what a wonderful job
they were able to do in so short a time using Pick or jBase or Cache. All
we get are 'This is broken!', 'I'm screwed!' and now sql-migration adds.

You can have the party at my place, small as it is, but it's definitely
"Bring your own"!!!

Mark Brown

"dawn" <dawnwolthuis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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But seriously folks (I don't know if I have ever used that phrase
before, hmmm), it seems like this could be an opportunity to get some
marketing for non-1NF, not-exclusively-SQL DBMS's. 40 years is a
significant milestone for a database and data model, especially one
where there are companies newly implementing that model. I would think
we could possibly have some fun in a big way that could be noticed by
the mainstream IT media. On the other hand, we could take a more
historically Pick approach to marketing, eh? --dawn




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