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Ian Balchin
 
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Default Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-07-2007 , 02:10 PM






Hi,

I am using a form that contains a 1 x 1 MRO.

Within this is a tableframe object for navigation use and the record
field objects that I need to edit.

If I am in the tableframe the Shift F11/F12 keys whiz me through the
records at high speed. If I am on the corresponding field object the
response is jerky and slow. However, the keyboard Page Up/Down keys
provide the same whiz-speed behaviour seen in the tableframe.

For the record, the Object Explorer shows

Multirecord72
Quote:

--#Record73


--Field1
--Field2
--Field3 etc
Quote:

--tableframe object

and so on.

The MRO Multirecord72 and its one 1 x 1 field #Record73 graphically
contain the tableframe object and all field objects seen from within the
form design view.

The whole thing works OK. Since the F11/F12 keys are the native Pdox
method of navigation through records, is there any reason why they are
not so speedy to use in this situation?

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Anne




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Ian Balchin
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-07-2007 , 02:48 PM






Hi,

After some research I downloaded Denis Santoro's paper on containership.
Following a quick read of that (more study tomorrow when I can print it
out) I resized the 1 x 1 field to include only the fields, thus
excluding the tableframe. No change in the behaviour of the form
however.

Regards
Anne

Ian Balchin <duffaddress (AT) ananzi (DOT) co.za> wrote in
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Quote:
Hi,

I am using a form that contains a 1 x 1 MRO.

Within this is a tableframe object for navigation use and the record
field objects that I need to edit.

If I am in the tableframe the Shift F11/F12 keys whiz me through the
records at high speed. If I am on the corresponding field object the
response is jerky and slow. However, the keyboard Page Up/Down keys
provide the same whiz-speed behaviour seen in the tableframe.

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Bertil Isberg
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-08-2007 , 02:57 PM




Shift F12 is dataFastForward. PageDown is dataNextSet
FastForward skips more records than NextSet in a MRO. So FastForward will
need fewer keypresses to reach the last record. Each keypress is a ore
involved process though, as it's not the next records that is retrieved.

so there is a difference


Is there a difference in each keypress? How many fields are shown in the MRO
record object? How many columns are shown in the tableframe?

How many tables are used in the datamodel, one or two?


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Quote:
Hi,

After some research I downloaded Denis Santoro's paper on containership.
Following a quick read of that (more study tomorrow when I can print it
out) I resized the 1 x 1 field to include only the fields, thus
excluding the tableframe. No change in the behaviour of the form
however.

Regards
Anne

Ian Balchin <duffaddress (AT) ananzi (DOT) co.za> wrote in
news:Xns98D0E18557FABazopane (AT) 196 (DOT) 43.2.61:

Hi,

I am using a form that contains a 1 x 1 MRO.

Within this is a tableframe object for navigation use and the record
field objects that I need to edit.

If I am in the tableframe the Shift F11/F12 keys whiz me through the
records at high speed. If I am on the corresponding field object the
response is jerky and slow. However, the keyboard Page Up/Down keys
provide the same whiz-speed behaviour seen in the tableframe.


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Anne Wainwright
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-11-2007 , 09:19 AM



Hello, Bertil,

Thank you for that explanation. I see from my Prestwood "P5 bible" that the
ActionDataCommands table F2 lists DataFastForward and DataNextSet as
distinct constants.

The one underlying table has 29 fields
There are around 1400 records
The form tableframe displays 10 fields and 18 rows / records and ...
The 1x1 MRO record includes 22 editable fields
All fields shown in the tableframe are also in the MRO record
Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.
There is only one table in the data model

Regards
Anne


Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in
news:45cb8ec3$1 (AT) pnews (DOT) thedbcommunity.com:

Quote:
Shift F12 is dataFastForward. PageDown is dataNextSet
FastForward skips more records than NextSet in a MRO. So FastForward
will need fewer keypresses to reach the last record. Each keypress is
a ore involved process though, as it's not the next records that is
"ore" = "more" ?

Quote:
retrieved.

so there is a difference


Is there a difference in each keypress? How many fields are shown in
the MRO record object? How many columns are shown in the tableframe?

How many tables are used in the datamodel, one or two?




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Bertil Isberg
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-11-2007 , 01:36 PM



How do manage to bind both the tableframe and the MRO to the same table? I
can't.

<<
Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.
Quote:
In the MRO ?

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Quote:
Hello, Bertil,

Thank you for that explanation. I see from my Prestwood "P5 bible" that
the
ActionDataCommands table F2 lists DataFastForward and DataNextSet as
distinct constants.

The one underlying table has 29 fields
There are around 1400 records
The form tableframe displays 10 fields and 18 rows / records and ...
The 1x1 MRO record includes 22 editable fields
All fields shown in the tableframe are also in the MRO record
Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.
There is only one table in the data model

Regards
Anne


Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in
news:45cb8ec3$1 (AT) pnews (DOT) thedbcommunity.com:


Shift F12 is dataFastForward. PageDown is dataNextSet
FastForward skips more records than NextSet in a MRO. So FastForward
will need fewer keypresses to reach the last record. Each keypress is
a ore involved process though, as it's not the next records that is

"ore" = "more" ?

retrieved.

so there is a difference


Is there a difference in each keypress? How many fields are shown in
the MRO record object? How many columns are shown in the tableframe?

How many tables are used in the datamodel, one or two?





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Anne Wainwright
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-12-2007 , 12:51 PM



Hi,

"Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in
news:45cf702f (AT) pnews (DOT) thedbcommunity.com:

Quote:
How do manage to bind both the tableframe and the MRO to the same
table? I can't.
With much difficulty, as I remember

I placed the tableframe on the form and bound this to the table
I placed the field objects on the form and bound them to the relevant
fields in the table
I then place the MRO on the form, changed it to 1x1
I then sized the MRO to encompass both the tableframe and the fields.
I then sized the MRO record to encompass just the fields

I'll email a screenshot just now. This includes the object tree, and
perhaps I can anticipate your comment, but will not comment here.

Regards
Anne


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Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.


In the MRO ?



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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-12-2007 , 03:06 PM



I can't see any difference in speed when I scroll such a form.

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Quote:
Hi,

"Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in
news:45cf702f (AT) pnews (DOT) thedbcommunity.com:

How do manage to bind both the tableframe and the MRO to the same
table? I can't.

With much difficulty, as I remember

I placed the tableframe on the form and bound this to the table
I placed the field objects on the form and bound them to the relevant
fields in the table
I then place the MRO on the form, changed it to 1x1
I then sized the MRO to encompass both the tableframe and the fields.
I then sized the MRO record to encompass just the fields

I'll email a screenshot just now. This includes the object tree, and
perhaps I can anticipate your comment, but will not comment here.

Regards
Anne


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Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.


In the MRO ?




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Anne Wainwright
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-13-2007 , 12:51 AM



Hi,

It's chalk and cheese here for sure but don't spend any more time, I'll
retrain myself to use the pg dn/up key.

note that the jerky operation only occures when focus is on the field
object, operation is smooth when on the tableframe.

"Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in news:45d0d6d0$1
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I can't see any difference in speed when I scroll such a form.

With thanks
Anne

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Anne Wainwright
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-14-2007 , 01:17 PM



Bertil, hello,

Are we saying that one cannot have both a tableframe and individual
fields (inside a 1x1 MRO) bound to the same underlying table on the same
form?

Does this contravene some fundamental restraint?

Regards
Ian

"Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in
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Quote:
How do manage to bind both the tableframe and the MRO to the same
table? I can't.


Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.


In the MRO ?



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Bertil Isberg
 
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Default Re: Sluggish Shift F11/F12 v PageUp/PageDown - 02-14-2007 , 02:47 PM



<<
Are we saying that one cannot have both a tableframe and individual
fields (inside a 1x1 MRO) bound to the same underlying table on the same
form?
Quote:
Obviously, you can, if you do it your way. Try to do it the simple way and
watch what happens.


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Quote:
Bertil, hello,

Are we saying that one cannot have both a tableframe and individual
fields (inside a 1x1 MRO) bound to the same underlying table on the same
form?

Does this contravene some fundamental restraint?

Regards
Ian

"Bertil Isberg" <ctech (AT) corel (DOT) ca> wrote in
news:45cf702f (AT) pnews (DOT) thedbcommunity.com:

How do manage to bind both the tableframe and the MRO to the same
table? I can't.


Shift-F11/12 and Page Up/Dn both cycle by 18 records at a time.


In the MRO ?




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