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Doug Kanter
 
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Default Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 12:39 PM






My company's thinking about making a small set of data visible to all
employees via a web site. Some employees are located at the home office, and
others are at remote locations, connecting to the home office server via a
VPN. We will all be adding items to this database throughout the day, but
nobody will be able to edit anyone else's items. We'd like it if updates
from one person were visible quickly to users at other locations, perhaps by
refreshing the web page or whatever's the best method.

The bad news is that The Boss wants to build this in-house, since the users
are OK with it looking less-than-perfect as we build it, whatever "it" is.
So, this leads to my question: Would Delphi be appropriate for this type of
thing? The network is a Windows environment, by the way.



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Tony McGuire
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 12:59 PM







Since you are asking on a Paradox forum, I can answer that Paradox would be
appropriate for "this type of thing".

I'd imagine that Delphi would, also.


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Doug Kanter
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 01:17 PM




"Tony McGuire" <png.paradoxcommunity@com> wrote

Quote:
Since you are asking on a Paradox forum, I can answer that Paradox would
be
appropriate for "this type of thing".
Sorry - I automatically came here because I've seen discussions touching on
Delphi a few times. Should've posted elsewhere.

Quote:
I'd imagine that Delphi would, also.
Who's pretending to market Paradox nowadays? Anyone? Last time I looked,
Corel's site made no mention of it.




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Jim Hargan
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 03:30 PM



On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:17:37 GMT, Doug Kanter wrote:

Quote:
Who's pretending to market Paradox nowadays? Anyone? Last time I looked,
Corel's site made no mention of it.
Hi Doug,

Corel recently started advertising Paradox on their site. Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/a9l5o

Check www.thedbcommunity.com, if you haven't already. There's a whole
section of articles on serving Paradox tables to the web.

Also while you are there, check the archives for threads discussing content
management programs -- the programs used to convert user-generated content
into mature web pages. This is no wheel you want to reinvent.

I wrote my own content management program in Paradox, but my needs are
simple. I thought -- almost certainly wrongly -- that the open source
content management systems would be so much overkill that rolling my own
would be easier. For what it's worth, I store content in Paradox tables,
edit it on Paradox forms, textstream it into web pages, and have CuteFTP
automatically upload it within a few seconds of its completion. Works fine:
www.harganonline.com . The problem I had was inline HTML, such as
<b>bold</b>. Tony posted a way of handling this a year or so ago, by
burying a web browser into a form. You can then set up the browser for
WYSIWYG rich content editing; both Explorer and Firefox support this.

Thought I'd just cover the major bases here. Sorry if I am saying stuff you
already know!


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Rick Kelly
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 03:30 PM




"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Who's pretending to market Paradox nowadays? Anyone? Last time I looked,

Corel's site made no mention of it.
If you have no interest in PDX, take your question to the appropriate technology
forum. Asking for feedback and subsequently crafting criticism of that feedback
is disingenuous and disrespectful to those responders whose time is wasted.

Rick Kelly


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Doug Kanter
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 04:18 PM




"Jim Hargan" <contactATharganonlineDOTcom (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:17:37 GMT, Doug Kanter wrote:

Who's pretending to market Paradox nowadays? Anyone? Last time I looked,
Corel's site made no mention of it.

Hi Doug,

Corel recently started advertising Paradox on their site. Here's the link:
http://tinyurl.com/a9l5o

Check www.thedbcommunity.com, if you haven't already. There's a whole
section of articles on serving Paradox tables to the web.

Also while you are there, check the archives for threads discussing
content
management programs -- the programs used to convert user-generated content
into mature web pages. This is no wheel you want to reinvent.

I wrote my own content management program in Paradox, but my needs are
simple. I thought -- almost certainly wrongly -- that the open source
content management systems would be so much overkill that rolling my own
would be easier. For what it's worth, I store content in Paradox tables,
edit it on Paradox forms, textstream it into web pages, and have CuteFTP
automatically upload it within a few seconds of its completion. Works
fine:
www.harganonline.com . The problem I had was inline HTML, such as
b>bold</b>. Tony posted a way of handling this a year or so ago, by
burying a web browser into a form. You can then set up the browser for
WYSIWYG rich content editing; both Explorer and Firefox support this.

Thought I'd just cover the major bases here. Sorry if I am saying stuff
you
already know!
Thank you, Jim. Your rough outline was actually very useful.




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Doug Kanter
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 04:20 PM




"Rick Kelly" <somebody (AT) anybody (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Who's pretending to market Paradox nowadays? Anyone? Last time I looked,

Corel's site made no mention of it.

If you have no interest in PDX, take your question to the appropriate
technology
forum. Asking for feedback and subsequently crafting criticism of that
feedback
is disingenuous and disrespectful to those responders whose time is
wasted.

Rick Kelly
Actually, there was no criticism of the feedback. It was simply a comment on
how Paradox, as a product, has been tossed around over the years. Since you
were not personally responsible for this situation.........you know the
rest.




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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 04:45 PM



Doug Kanter wrote:

Quote:
Who's pretending to market Paradox nowadays? Anyone? Last time I looked,
Corel's site made no mention of it.
and this comment, coming from somebody that still runs PdoxDOS 3.5, means what?



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Steven Green
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 05:06 PM



Jim Hargan wrote:

Quote:
Corel recently started advertising Paradox on their site. Here's the link:
gimme a break.. that link just points to the "Suite 12 Professional" page,
which merely happens to say "and Paradox for relational databases".. click to
the "features and details" page and it still doesn't say a word about Paradox..

please don't give Corel credit for something they don't deserve.. because they
really *don't* deserve it..


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Diamond Software Group
http://www.diamondsg.com/main.htm
Paradox Support & Sales - Corel CTech Paradox
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Jim Hargan
 
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Default Re: Publishing data to the web - 12-20-2005 , 05:32 PM



On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:06:46 -0500, Steven Green wrote:

Quote:
Jim Hargan wrote:

Corel recently started advertising Paradox on their site. Here's the link:

gimme a break.. that link just points to the "Suite 12 Professional" page,
which merely happens to say "and Paradox for relational databases".. click to
the "features and details" page and it still doesn't say a word about Paradox..
The only difference between WP and WP-Pro is that WP-Pro has Paradox,
AFAIK. Therefore, any promotion of WP-Pro as a separate product is
promotion of Paradox.

And, until recently, the website made no mention of WP-Pro. You had to call
the 800 number (which I did), and then the nice lady on the phone had to
transfer you to a supervisor who knew how much it cost ($135 upgrade --
half what they are charging now).

Quote:
please don't give Corel credit for something they don't deserve.. because they
really *don't* deserve it..
They are new and improved. Still not very good.

But Steven, do you really mean to rag on Doug Kantor for saying something
nasty about Corel, then snarl in my general direction for saying something
nice? You just come back from Christmas shopping? Come on, grab some eggnog
and relax!



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