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Jim Moseley
 
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Default Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-04-2009 , 01:27 PM







Does anyone have a list of all folders that must have 'Full Control' in order
to install Pdox 9 Runtime?

I've got a client with Server2008 that has the security locked very tightly.
Currently, it is squawking that the Windows\Fonts folder is trying to be
updated. I'd like to give him 1 list of all folders he needs to (temporarily?)
open up.

TIA,
Jim Moseley

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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-04-2009 , 04:24 PM






can't you "install as administrator", and "install for all users"?

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"Jim Moseley" <jmose (AT) mapson (DOT) triptracker.com> wrote

Quote:
Does anyone have a list of all folders that must have 'Full Control' in
order
to install Pdox 9 Runtime?

I've got a client with Server2008 that has the security locked very
tightly.
Currently, it is squawking that the Windows\Fonts folder is trying to be
updated. I'd like to give him 1 list of all folders he needs to
(temporarily?)
open up.

TIA,
Jim Moseley


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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-04-2009 , 05:18 PM




Steven,

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can't you "install as administrator", and "install for all users"?
The IT guys want a list of every folder that will be updated.

Jim Moseley


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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-05-2009 , 02:10 AM




"Jim Moseley" <jmose (AT) mapson (DOT) triptracker.com> wrote

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Steven,

can't you "install as administrator", and "install for all users"?

The IT guys want a list of every folder that will be updated.

Jim Moseley
Hi Jim,

If the "IT" guys were any good then they would use a tool which would
provide them with this information. I mean why stop at folders, why not
registry settings as well ?? How I do this is to install under Altiris
before deciding whether it is safe or not. Altiris also provides you with a
list of just about everything that gets modified , including registry keys.
The advantage is that I do not need to bother anyone with such stupid
requests and thats assuming you can identify the software creator.

Leslie.




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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-05-2009 , 10:31 AM




At least some install media includes this information in a text format as
part of the install package. I suspect you could find it for Paradox by
looking at the files on the CD (or in the package if you're creating your
own install).

Liz


"Leslie Milburn" <CDB4W (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) bigpond.com> wrote:
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"Jim Moseley" <jmose (AT) mapson (DOT) triptracker.com> wrote in message

The IT guys want a list of every folder that will be updated.

Jim Moseley

Hi Jim,

If the "IT" guys were any good then they would use a tool which would
provide them with this information. I mean why stop at folders, why not

registry settings as well ?? How I do this is to install under Altiris
before deciding whether it is safe or not. Altiris also provides you with
a
list of just about everything that gets modified , including registry keys.

The advantage is that I do not need to bother anyone with such stupid
requests and thats assuming you can identify the software creator.

Leslie.




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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-05-2009 , 01:50 PM




"Liz McGuire" <liz (AT) paradoxcommunity (DOT) com> wrote:
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At least some install media includes this information in a text format as
part of the install package. I suspect you could find it for Paradox by
looking at the files on the CD (or in the package if you're creating your
own install).
Funny - great minds think alike. I dug out the old Pdox 9 manuals from the
back of the closet yesterday, but couldn't find anything.

After rereading my client's request, I think I misinterpreted what the IT
guys want. They were complaining that they got a permissions error, and
want an automatic installer for Server2008 that won't squawk. Reading a
Rick Kelly Vista post, it seems this can be accomplised with a manifest file
(his was for BDE).

Am I on the right track? I don't have Server2008, and google hasn't been
much help yet. This would be for Pdox 9 Runtime & BDE.

--- Email excerpt: ----
We have attempted to install my app but the first installer will not progress.
We are having permission issues with the installation due to the elevated
permission requirements of 2008 server. I have attached the initial error
message related to the first installation step.
Error: 'I could not create the fonts directory,
please ensure you have selected a valid path and try again.'

Is there a way for you to prepare 2008 server compatible installer(s) for
us so we can move forward and get the new environment pushed out.
--- Email excerpt end ----

Here's Rick's post: http://pnews.thedbcommunity.com/cgi-...em=28641&utag=

Thanks,
Jim Moseley


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Liz McGuire
 
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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-05-2009 , 04:23 PM




I have no idea. I've never had to do my own install package and our IT guys,
who are very security conscious, recognize that installs ought to be done
as a person with full rights to everything (if you want the app to work right).

Liz


"Jim Moseley" <jmose (AT) mapson (DOT) triptracker.com> wrote:
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Reading a
Rick Kelly Vista post, it seems this can be accomplised with a manifest
file
(his was for BDE).

Am I on the right track?

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Jim Moseley
 
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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-05-2009 , 06:22 PM




Liz,

Quote:
I have no idea. I've never had to do my own install package and our IT
guys,
who are very security conscious, recognize that installs ought to be done
as a person with full rights to everything (if you want the app to work
right).

After one more go-round with the IT guys, they did try to run it as admin.
But it failed. They're going to setup my own little sandbox in Server2008
to see if I can figure it out. I'll probably be back for more help then!


Thanks,
Jim Moseley


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Liz McGuire
 
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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-05-2009 , 06:54 PM



They're probably using AD and have all kinds of group policies and
what-not that even being a domain administrator won't override.

And, just for good measure, I looked at the p9dev edition cd and Corel
are no longer including a file that lists all the changes the install
will make. They might create such a file (in which case, you could
install on a workstation and pull that file after the fact to see what
got installed), but you can't get it ahead of time.

The PDE used to make such a file when you built the package, don't know
if it still does.

There are also programs (like LANDesk) that will image a computer,
thereby giving you all the details of an install by taking a before and
after snapshot....

FWIW,

Liz


Jim Moseley wrote:
Quote:
After one more go-round with the IT guys, they did try to run it as admin.
But it failed. They're going to setup my own little sandbox in Server2008
to see if I can figure it out. I'll probably be back for more help then!


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Jim Moseley
 
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Default Re: Pdox 9 Runtime Install/Update folders - 05-11-2009 , 01:33 PM




Liz,

Quote:
They're probably using AD and have all kinds of group policies and
what-not that even being a domain administrator won't override.
How right you are. They finally ran it as a 'local administrator' instead
of just using 'Run as admin' and it worked fine. Amazing that it took 3
weeks for them to try that!

Thanks for your help!

Jim Moseley


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