Is there any documentation (aka tutorials) available online? I've
figured out how to create tables and edit them and stuff but I'd like
to learn how to use multi-table queries and stuff like that (hey if I
wanted non-relational stuff I'd use dbase) Learning PAL to build more
complicated databases may be in the cards too, if there's any good
info...

Before anyone asks, I don't have any manuals and I'm using DOS Paradox
because it's the best solution for an old machine that I want to use to
keep track of my media library. I got Paradox for free when it was
being thrown out, so I can't complain...

madcrow wrote:

no.. and I'm very short on regular manual sets right now, too.. there's a
guy selling full sets on eBay for $219.. at the moment, that's your best
bet, unless you can get by to start with a few odds-n-ends.. see my web
site..


only if this is strictly for yourself.. there is very little support left
for PdoxDOS..


if you don't have manuals, how would you know that? (g).. PdoxDOS 4.x needs
a minimum of 4 meg of free available extended memory.. and it runs fine on
a Win machine, too..


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My victim machine is a Pentium 75 laptop with Win95 SR1 with 40 megs of
RAM. Early Windows versions would probably work too, but nobody's
giving those away... Microsoft Access (which I have lying around on old 3.5"
disks) might also work, but yuck... I was even looking at DataPerfect,
but nobody used that, even in the real DOS era...

madcrow wrote:

good.. but this far down the road, you're still better off picking up a copy of
PdoxWIN instead.. you're starting from scratch anyhow..


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On 19 Dec 2005 15:05:58 -0800, madcrow wrote:
I have *very* fond memories of PdoxDOS 4.5, but last programmed in it in
1993. I know from threads on this news server that it is amazingly common
even today. The PAL language is supremely easy to use and learn. I did some
medium sophisticated workload modeling with it -- police workloads spread
over 2-d space and 1-d of time, complete with queuing theory to predict
problem time-locales (when-where the emergency response system collapsed --
very accurate, it turned out). As I recall, DOS PAL is essentially a
BASIC-like macro language, and my biggest problem was predicting the
program's state (what's open, etc). But PAL allows procedures, and I wrote
a few that would stabilize the state and called one at the start of every
routine.

I hope the online help is at least minimally adequate. I am afraid that you
are stuck with it. PdoxDOS is long dead, despite its many virtues. I don't
even have a copy (my backups got mildew in a basement). It's a fun
environment, though.


--
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On 19 Dec 2005 15:05:58 -0800, "madcrow" <madcrow.maxwell (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

bummer is you can't get A/V software updates for machines with w95 and
20M memory so you have to be careful when connecting to a network :/

Steve U

"madcrow" <madcrow.maxwell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:1135032000.999983.259490 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com:

I am in New Zealand so freight may be a cost, but ....

I have a spare full set of 4.5 manuals. Only one, the 4.5 upgrade guide has
ever been used.

Also surplus to requirements are the following Paradox 4.0/4.5 goodies...

Original disks for Paradox 4.0 - 4 x 720kb 3.5 diskettes
and Paradox 4.5 (DOS) - 2 x 1.44Mb 3.5 diskettes
and Paradox 4.5 (Windows) - 5 x 1.44Mb diskettes, plus full set of manuals
for 4.5Win

Book + disk: Paradox 4.0 Programmers guide, PAL by Example, 1159 pages.
Authors Alan Zenreich and James Kocis, published by Borland Press.

Book + disk: ApForm v4 by Richplum Ltd. Advanced Paradox Form and Report
editor.

Paintpal disk v3.0 by Target Software. The Ultimate Dialog Box Design Tool
for Paradox
Paintpal Samples and Examples disk v1.0
Paintpal v2.0 manual and v3.0 upgrade guide.

Book + disk: Database Graphics Toolkit, special Paradox edition.

Leaflet + disk: ButtonPal, the speedbar for Paradox 4.0

Book + disk: Paradox 4.0 Developers Toolkit v2.0 by Borland. Applications
and Procedures for members of the Paradox Developers Partners program.

Disk only : Softies Training Products, Mastering Paradox 4.0 With Ease.

13 1.44Mb disks of assorted Paradox/PAL (DOS) code, copyright EMS
libraries.

Any interest ?


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Neither had a mother-in-law.

Doc wrote:

yes.. please e-mail me..


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Steve Urbach wrote:

yeah, but you can buy a screaming new XP machine to replace it, for $299..


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Well, Somehow I don't see my antinque laptop going onto a network any
time soon.