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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-13-2008 , 06:13 PM







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That's a good way of putting it, Larry. I think that Borland has been its
own worst enemy for a dozen years. Maybe the Embarcadero investors will
be
a godsend. Especially if they reconsider the "sleeping beauty" business
value of You-Know-What.

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Good point. Now let's hope they realize their princely opportunity.


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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-13-2008 , 06:13 PM







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That's a good way of putting it, Larry. I think that Borland has been its
own worst enemy for a dozen years. Maybe the Embarcadero investors will
be
a godsend. Especially if they reconsider the "sleeping beauty" business
value of You-Know-What.

----
ChimneySweep(R): Fast(!) table repair at a click of the mouse!
http://www.sundialservices.com


Good point. Now let's hope they realize their princely opportunity.


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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-13-2008 , 06:13 PM




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That's a good way of putting it, Larry. I think that Borland has been its
own worst enemy for a dozen years. Maybe the Embarcadero investors will
be
a godsend. Especially if they reconsider the "sleeping beauty" business
value of You-Know-What.

----
ChimneySweep(R): Fast(!) table repair at a click of the mouse!
http://www.sundialservices.com


Good point. Now let's hope they realize their princely opportunity.


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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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Mike Prestwood
 
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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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Mike Prestwood
 
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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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Mike Prestwood
 
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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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Mike Prestwood
 
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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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Mike Prestwood
 
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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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Mike Prestwood
 
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Default Re: Embarcadero Technologies to buy Borland's development products unit! - 05-24-2008 , 03:16 PM



Quote:
Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage already done?

I think so too. I'm excited to see what happens going forward. After Paradox
a lot of us expanded our skills to include Delphi (many just left Paradox
and went to Delphi). Delphi was king of the development world for several
years and was an exciting time. Delphi went from supporting 16-bit Windows
to 32-bit Windows then added Linux. About that time .Net started to take off
and many Delphi developers migrated to VS.Net using C#. Borland then dropped
Kylix (now a dead product for all intended purposes) but jumped into the
..Net realm. Now there's Delphi for Win32 and Delphi for .Net and soon there
will be a Delphi for Win64. There's a bit of a battle going on within the
Delphi community to keep as many Delphi developers as possible. Here's an
interesting thread going on at the Prestwood Boards about this topic...

http://www.prestwoodboards.com/ASPSu...asp?MBID=12733

The battle for the future of Windows development is an interesting war to
watch. The future of 32-bit processors and Win32 is probably the biggest
threat to Paradox considering it doesn't look like Corel is going to port
Paradox to a 64-bit processor. However, legacy Paradox apps will probably
run for along time. Consider the fact that Microsoft just recently started
the process of dumping DOS applications. Vista 32-bit supports 16-bit DOS
apps but Vista 64-bit does not so you have to result to emulators.

They also offer Delphi for PHP but the name is really just a marketing
thing.

"Larry DiGiovanni" <nospam@nospam> wrote

Quote:
Rodney Wise wrote:

What's up????

Uh, Borland spun off its developer tools division as CodeGear for the
expressly stated purpose of selling it off, because Borland wanted to
focus on lifecycle management tools, not developer/RAD tools. Your rant
is two years late.

The Embarcadero acquisition is probably a good thing for the CodeGear
tools.

RAD Software developing tools are used to produce complex solutions that
may takes several years to develop...

Really? Then why call it Rapid Application Development?

Most software developers also hope that it will require many more years
to support.

Software of any value requires years of support.

In my opinion, Borland has hurt itself severely by constantly trying to
"find itself"...

Borland's ongoing identity crisis can no longer harm users of its
development products. Isn't that a good thing, setting aside the damage
already done?

--
Larry DiGiovanni



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