I am looking for any resources related to careware.
A company is running Careware 3.18, and has had so much success with it that
they don't want to upgrade.
Oddly enough they are running XP Pro and I have been able to keep their
Careware running with luck as we cross error messages and try to resolve them,
however I am running out of resources and most say version 5 is so outdated.
So how and why on earth would we stay with 3.18.
When I look at the program it is very well designed.

What the problem we are seeing is that the other versions or data bases that
were taking over from them are causing other similar businesses nothing but
problems.
So we are staying with this one as long as we can.
So any tips?
Anyway we can save the data to be used with another program eventually
without losing any of it.

It is paradox based, any help or resources would be greatly appreciated.

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trustssaints via DBMonster.com wrote:
I've never heard of it, but you'll never see my paradox app's name on
google either. Is it anything to do with
http://www.epi.state.nc.us/epi/hiv/pdf/profile2005.pdf ?

If there's a "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Borland Shared\BDE"
directory, there's a good possibility it's either Paradox or Delphi.
You can also look for files ending in .fsl, .fdl, .rsl, .rdl, (Paradox)
..db, .mb .px (both Pardox or Delphi- anything using the Borland Database
Engine (BDE)).

HTH,

Foster Glascock

Yes there is a Common Files/Borland Shared/BDE
The main program is located in the ProgramFiles/Careware
The Data files are .db .mb .px

Can these data files be accessed and edited?
And is there a resource for the version 3.18?
Thanks for the reply.

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trustssaints via DBMonster.com wrote:
Those are Paradox files.


database. I know Office 2003 works for this, maybe Office XP too.
Editing the data this way may not be wise, especially if this is a
multi-user production app, but at least you can get to the data. Make
backups first, of course, and play around with them.

yes, but be advised that modifying files outside the control of the app can
be *very* dangerous to the app.. without the controls, most data and
business rules are not active..


anything directly related to the app must be asked of the people that wrote
and/or support the app.. all we can tell you about is generic paradox table
theory.. we know nothing about the app itself..

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Diamond Software Group
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Paradox Support & Sales - Corel CTech Paradox

Diamond Sports Gems
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Sports Memorabilia and Trading Cards

Yes that is what makes this task so much more difficult, the company no
longer supports the data base.
Another company took it over and changed it dramatically and refuses to
support the older version.
So we are holding it together incident by incident.

So this means that there is no program that we can import into and run it, as
set up, or as designed for this particular company.

Yes I was hoping that general paradox information would help to keep the
program running. right now it runs fantastic, just that I have this worry in
the back of my mind that it is old and unsupported, how long can I keep it
together.

Thanks for the advise, right now it is running great, just hope it stays that
way, in the meantime I was trying to gather as much info as I can in relation
to the paradox db.


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Paradox tables - get Paradox the application to copy your data to other formats.

The current version of Paradox (11), even version 9, will easily read and copy
the data. Current version is available online; Steve G. sells earlier versions
on his web site (http://www.diamondsg.com/pdoxsales.htm).

Yes, you can manipulate the data, but as Steven G. pointed out, you might
inadvertently make a change that has disastrous effects on the Careware system.

Since you seem to be more 'patching the data to keep it going', it sounds like
you might be able to make edits to the data using Paradox.


Do you know what program Careware was written in?


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"It's not about having enough time. It's about priorities."
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"trustssaints via DBMonster.com" <u20213@uwe> wrote


that is a *very* valid concern.. at this point, it isn't clear what platform
the app was written in, so there's not much we can offer in that regard..
many platforms can use paradox table format..


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Steven Green - Waldorf Maryland USA

Diamond Software Group
http://www.diamondsg.com/main.htm
Paradox Support & Sales - Corel CTech Paradox

Diamond Sports Gems
http://www.diamondsg.com/gemsmain.htm
Sports Memorabilia and Trading Cards

Is there a way to determine what the app was written in?

And in that, can a newer version of paradox itself beloaded over the current
version to at least keep those tables more current, or am I just whistling
into the wind?

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Search the application's directory(ies) or the entire hard drive for
..fdl/.fsl, .rdl/.rsl, .ldl/.lsl - if you find these, it's Paradox the
application; without these, it's not Paradox the application.

You could also search for pdoxwin.exe or pdx*.* or pdox*.* and report
the results here.

If it's a Paradox app and you don't have the source code, you can't
run it under any other version than what you've already got. If
you've got source code, then we've got somewhere to start. (Sounds
doubtful that you have the source.)

However, any current version of Paradox would be able to read the data
and write it out to nearly any format you could want. If you're going
to stop using the application and migrate the data, I'd get Paradox;
if you just want to keep using the app, I wouldn't touch the data (as
far as editing data or altering structures) - though you could use
Paradox to report on the data.

NOTE: In your first post, you wrote: "most say version 5 is so
outdated" - if this is really "level 5" of the tables, then, IMO, it's
irrelevant - the table level doesn't matter all that much unless you
need features of a later table level (and there's only one level after
5). If they're talking about the Paradox version, then yes, that's
pretty old and made for Win 3.x, but it was a good version...

Finally, we know you're using Paradox tables. There are certain
requirements for that which are consistent no matter what the app is
written in. I paste some tips below which will help you ensure the
data doesn't corrupt (only major thing that's missing is to make sure
the hardware (RAM, HDD, NIC, cabling, power, etc.) is all in good
working order).

FWIW,

Liz


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