omlet (AT) omlet (DOT) org wrote:

Just curious - in your words, what is in this 'complete monitoring package'
that is not in Oracle Enterprise Manager?

My assumption here is that I want a background monitor tool that will advise
me (mail/page) when I need to take action, not something pretty to watch.
Based on what I saw from your site, the documentation I'd seen, and the
screen shots, the value-add simply does not jump out to me.

Further assumption is that I have gotten over the need to manage by ratio -
which, with your expertise, you know has not been core tuning technology
since Oracle 7.

<off topic>
An aside, related to social dynamics: I find it very irritating to see any
cross, or multi-posts. I interpret that as a sign that the poster either
is immature in the use of internet newsgroups, or does not respect me and
my resources. My usual response to people who do not have any respect for
me is to return the favor, generally by ignoring them. Since some cultures
do not interact the same way mine does, I offer some indication how
interaction could happen. Misquoting Heinlein - "courtesy is the only
thing available to grease society - which normally does not work well at
the best of times."

In light of this, and as a courtesy to others, I have removed cdo.server and
cdo.tools from the response as this discussion is not relevant to those
groups.
</off topic>

/Hans

Hans Forbrich wrote:

Many thanks for the [lack of] response.

It's been over 48 hours. Since you are responding to others, you must have
had an opportunity to review and think about my question.

And since you advertise yourself as quite knowledgeable in Oracle
technology, I feel safe in concluding that even you do not find any
value-add for this in an environment that has standardized on OEM.

Have to admit, it is both pretty to look at and appears to be a seriously
significant piece of coding. Not 'specially useful, but definitely pretty.

/Hans

<sotto voce>
That said, I asked a fair tech question and offered an opportunity to
respond in the tech forums. I now await the rebuttal, expecting that to be
insult-laden and diversionary.
</sotto voce>

Hans Forbrich <forbrich (AT) yahoo (DOT) net> wrote

sorry Hans for ignoring you.

I would leave this to satisfied OMLET users. I would like you to be
more constructive and tell me what would like to have in OMLETv5? be
creative; give us 6 months; and we will deliver.