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Default Re: is Oracle technically better than Ingres ? - 08-10-2004 , 06:27 PM






michaelnewport (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (michael newport) wrote in message news:<63b202d.0408101012.1d178269 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...
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...so anyway I have not had time to implement the IOT suggestion
(people keep giving me other work !), but its nice to know that I can
do the same thing in Oracle that I used to do in Ingres. So thanks for
the help.

But pre-ordering your data is a handy feature that saves time (during
the day) and hassle.

But getting back to my original question, "is Oracle technically
better than Ingres". I still can not say that it is. I was waiting for
a smoking gun from some Oracle people as to why Oracle is better.

Furthermore I kept having an Oracle "snapshot too old" problem which
meant that after weeks of studiously putting my SQL query together, I
am now having to split it up again. Something to do with the query
taking too long.

regards
Mike
Mike, sometimes you get a "snapshot too old" because your rollback
segments really are too small. How large are your segments in
relation to the amount of data (include index changes) you are trying
to change. Another common cause is too frequently committing during a
process that reads and updates the same table.

Unlike say DB2 UDB which says to commit often Oracle is designed so
that you should do large amounts of work between commits if concurrent
access requirements allow. If your are updating then OLTP activity
against the same table limits how long you want to hold a modified row
while inserts have no such concurrent activity and can be held for a
longer period without affecting any other session.

Also as you mentioned speeding up the processing of the query will
also reduce the chance of a snapshot too old error if the cause of the
problem is other sessions changing and committing data you need in
very small transactions. How does the explain look? Does the join
order appear to be the best order? Is the join method the best choice
for the data in question? Are you dealing with skewed data values?

If you are using an UNDO tablespace instead of manually configured
rollback setting the undo_retention period to be longer may help you
out.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --


HTH -- Mark D Powell --


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