Daniel,

Did it ever occur to you that you butted into a conversation as an uninvited guest?
( on several different points I might add )

Wouldn't it be better to let Mark speak for himself? He was on a roll and I was
getting some good information into the mind of Oracle marketing.

If you must butt in, show some courtesy and at least have the decency to put your
drink down before ranting instead of spilling it all over people. Dear god man.

Anyway, I do appreciate your passion as well as Marks' but the devil is in the
details where I come from. Marketing is wonderful but eventually Oracle has to
pony up with reality. Sun is going through their reality check, along with SCO,
for Oracle it's just a matter of time. Larry doesn't have a vision for the
future because his vision has come and gone. Once he steps aside the company
can morph, but if he stays too long it'll be the end of it. Sun missed it, SCO
missed it, Unisys, DEC, the list gets longer every day. As Gordon Gecko said,
it's not the survival of the unfittest.

Daniel Morgan wrote:

Data Goob wrote:

Which part of 'you posted to comp.databases.oracle.server' didn't you
understand? Did you think c.d.o.server was an IBM DB2 usenet group or
did you think it was an appropriate place for private conversations.

If you need help understanding the public nature of the internet I
would be happy to suggest some local community college classes for you.

--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)

Daniel Morgan wrote:
The trouble is that most, if not all, of these posts are cross-posted to
comp.databases.ibm-db2 as well, so you will have to expect replies from
people on the ibm-db2 newsgroup as well.

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Jean-David Beyer wrote:
Exactly. So if someone wishes to communicate in a single usenet group
it is incumbent upon that person to edit the group list. And if they
wish a private communication they should respond to the OP directly.

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University of Washington
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Daniel A. Morgan wrote:
This thread has 0 technical content (excluding Mark's strategy post).
I for one am really not interested in watching the two of you bashing
each others virtual heads in. If I want to see that I browse the
"omlet-thread" in c.d.o.s

Cheers
Serge

Hans Forbrich <forbrich (AT) yahoo (DOT) net> wrote

....Sybase sold their soul to Microsoft by
and all of them, near as i can tell, have sold their souls to
XML Data Storage, thus eviscerating the relational model, and
taking us back to IMS. i hope they're all Real Proud of themselves.

annoyed and distraught,
robert

robert wrote:
I agree. There is a proper place for XML. XML is good. But it is
no more the solution to every problem than is a nail.
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Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
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Daniel Morgan wrote:
the vendors agree that hammers and nails belong into their toolbox?
XML does not spell the end of SQL although I dare the opinion that SQL
is fairly mature.

Cheers
Serge

And I thought I was the only person on the planet that sees anything wrong
with XML. The first time I saw an article espousing the benefits of this
great new tool (some idiot calling it the "new ASCII" - doh!) all I could
see was a bloated pig of a format that looked like it spewed forth from the
mind of a juvenile delinquent. That it has made its way into the DBMS
engines shows that people have more computing resources than they have good
sense.

--
Michael D. Long


"robert" <gnuoytr (AT) rcn (DOT) com> wrote