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Default Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-07-2007 , 03:16 PM






We just got Toad 9.xxx.
we noticed that every time an end user is working on a table (sinple
select statement) from his end, the table will get locked and stay as,
until this user's statement is finished or he close his session. Is
that normal with oracle or is there something can be done on Toad
side.

thanks for help

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Default Re: Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-10-2007 , 03:10 PM







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We just got Toad 9.xxx.
we noticed that every time an end user is working on a table (sinple
select statement) from his end, the table will get locked and stay as,
until this user's statement is finished or he close his session. Is
that normal with oracle or is there something can be done on Toad
side.

thanks for help
Put Toad in read only query mode, or better: don't use Toad at all. It's
famous for locking tables.

Shakespeare




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Default Re: Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-11-2007 , 08:18 AM




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shakespeare wrote:
"zino" <antony6670 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
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We just got Toad 9.xxx.
we noticed that every time an end user is working on a table (sinple
select statement) from his end, the table will get locked and stay as,
until this user's statement is finished or he close his session. Is
that normal with oracle or is there something can be done on Toad
side.

thanks for help

Put Toad in read only query mode, or better: don't use Toad at all. It's
famous for locking tables.

I've used TOAD for years, and never had a problem with locking tables.
(Yeah, it'll lock tables if you issue a select for update, or update
without committing, or do DDL, but that's all expected.)

Something weird is going on. Not sure what, but out of the box there's no
locking for a simple select.

//Walt
But browsing a table and clicking on an entry in the result grid will....
even if you don't edit at all.
I have seen several customer sites where TOAD was absolutely forbidden for
this behaviour. Sure, it's not the tool, but how you use it..... I used Toad
for years without any complaints.
It's the 'until this user's statement is finished' that worries me most....

Shakespeare




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Default Re: Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-11-2007 , 03:17 PM



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"zino" <antony6670 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
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We just got Toad 9.xxx.
we noticed that every time an end user is working on a table (sinple
select statement) from his end, the table will get locked and stay as,
until this user's statement is finished or he close his session. Is
that normal with oracle or is there something can be done on Toad
side.

thanks for help
Put Toad in read only query mode, or better: don't use Toad at all. It's
famous for locking tables.
I've used TOAD for years, and never had a problem with locking tables.
(Yeah, it'll lock tables if you issue a select for update, or update
without committing, or do DDL, but that's all expected.)

Something weird is going on. Not sure what, but out of the box there's no
locking for a simple select.

//Walt
But browsing a table and clicking on an entry in the result grid will....
even if you don't edit at all.
I have seen several customer sites where TOAD was absolutely forbidden for
this behaviour. Sure, it's not the tool, but how you use it..... I used Toad
for years without any complaints.
It's the 'until this user's statement is finished' that worries me most....

Shakespeare


Somewhere there's an option to use it read-only,
or use separate threads (will still lock - just
to indicate there's more than one option to look at)

Take a look at PL/SQL Developer of AllroundAutomations.
Better tool for developers (less obvious DBA stuff ),
better support for new Oracle versions, supports unicode
(ever seen russian job descriptions in the famous EMP table,
or chinese column names?!?).


And... it's a hell of a lot cheaper than TOAD! Current
prices: US$6k for an *unlimited* licence - TOAD will give
you about a single user license with no plugins for that!
--
Regards,
Frank van Bortel

Top-posting is one way to shut me up...


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Default Re: Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-13-2007 , 02:53 AM




"zino" <antony6670 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> schreef in bericht
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We just got Toad 9.xxx.
we noticed that every time an end user is working on a table (sinple
select statement) from his end, the table will get locked and stay as,
until this user's statement is finished or he close his session. Is
that normal with oracle or is there something can be done on Toad
side.

thanks for help
You COULD use TOAD Security, a set of scripts creating tables in yoyr
database telling who can do what withToad on that database.

Shakespeare




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Default Re: Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-13-2007 , 04:02 PM




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Take a look at PL/SQL Developer of AllroundAutomations.
My favorite too....

Shakespeare




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Default Re: Toad is locking table in oracle - 12-14-2007 , 02:20 PM




"Walt" <walt_askier (AT) SHOESyahoo (DOT) com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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I've used TOAD for years, and never had a problem with locking tables.
I have had problems with TOAD locking tables and causing hangs in ETL jobs
or importing schemas .. just cause I looked for DLL statements or grid data

it doesn't happen systematically but it's serious problem




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