I know the correct response is ask Oracle... but does anyone have
experience/opinion on how something like AMD Bulldozer(8 cores) will
be licensed on Standard Edition (One). We've had no problem on Nehalem
(quad core) which could potentially be caught out by the multi-chip
clause in the licensing document. Can anyone confirm the have SE
licensing for a single socket on AMD Istanbul (6 cores) and back to
the original question on any possible 8 core (or more) processor.

I'm assuming Oracle will have to change the licensing costs between
Enterprise/Standard/Standard 1 at some point as the increasing core
count is making them diverge so much (Just compare a single 6 core
Istanbul on EE compared to SE1)

On Oct 14, 1:09*pm, Rob Burton <burton.... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
SE One is pretty picky about how many cores. Read the current
licensing information from Oracle.

On Oct 14, 7:08*pm, John Hurley <hurleyjo... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Can you be a bit for specific John please, I still see the standard
multi-chip slightly vague wording Oracle have used for the last few
years.

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/p...ist-070617.pdf

"...Processor: ... When licensing Oracle programs with Standard
Edition One or Standard Edition in the product name (with the
exception of Java SE Support, Java SE Advanced, and Java SE Suite), a
processor is counted equivalent to an occupied
socket; however, in the case of multi-chip modules, each chip in the
multi-chip module is counted as one occupied socket. ..."

Thanks

Rob..

On Oct 14, 7:08*pm, John Hurley <hurleyjo... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Can you be a bit more specific John, please, I still see the standard
multi-chip slightly vague wording Oracle have used for the last few
years.

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/p...ist-070617.pdf

"...Processor: ... When licensing Oracle programs with Standard
Edition One or Standard Edition in the product name (with the
exception of Java SE Support, Java SE Advanced, and Java SE Suite), a
processor is counted equivalent to an occupied
socket; however, in the case of multi-chip modules, each chip in the
multi-chip module is counted as one occupied socket. ..."

Thanks

Rob..

Rob:

# Can you be a bit for specific John please, I still see the standard
multi-chip slightly vague wording Oracle have used for the last few
years.

I just looked and it seems like the active disclaimer for SE 1 is it
cannot be used in systems with more than 2 sockets ( or was it 1
socket ).

Seems like a 1 socket 8 core system meets the current criteria.

Looks like the "don't ask don't tell" rule applies unless you really
want to get specific with Oracle sales. They never have a good exact
understanding either typically.

Hi there,

it is really annoying. The EE is somewhat unbearable on Linux System
nowadays. If you are willing to build a system 2 Node RAC with both
nodes capable to hold 2 Sockets you end up with 32 cores.
In this case, you need 4 SE licenses or 16 EE licenses. Same is true
for the AMD - Servers of course.
Even the Named User License, which is a possibility for our customers
is not really helpful, because of the minimum of 25 Users for each
required EE - License.

So i, the poor DBA of all of this systems, am not able to reach all
this fine EE features to help our customers just because of this
stupid license policy.

Ah, just to mention, the RAC is cost free in SE, but a costly option
in EE. That makes sense.......NOT.

An angry victim

Joerg

On Oct 18, 2:02*am, Jörg Jost <anton.ta... (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:
And add diag/perf pack licensing insanity to the list.

"Oh, er by the way - got a bit of a dirty fork, could you ... er.. get
me another one? "

jg
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