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Default Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-10-2010 , 05:22 PM






Hello folks
I’m trying to find a solution for a strange problem.

First, let me say that my knowledge of Oracle is almost nil. I’m the
local Windows tech support, am am trying to help the Oracle admins to
fix this.

We have a Oracle 10g server which was set up in a fixed IP Windows
2003 server (call it server1, temporary IP 111.111.111.111). After it
was set up, everything seemed to go ok: every other workstation could
access it via web portal (http://server1, and application at
http://server1/pls/prt)

However, we have now changed the IP of the server to it’s definitive
(call it 111.111.222.222); since then, the only workstations that can
access http://server1 are workstations with fixed IP; any workstation
that uses DHCP-assigned IP gets “page doesn’t exist). I’ve tried
putting the servers name+IP on the workstations host file, but no
luck. Also, many workstations with fixed IP can only reach the basic
portal (http://server1); reaching http://server1/pls/prt is reserved
for a few…

The workstations can ping the server’s IP at will, and can access it
using Windows remote access. I tried a tracert from both the
DHCP-based and the fixed IP workstations, and the results were the
same: path was straight from PC to server. All Oracle servers seem to
be running, except “OracleCSS”, which is allways in a state of
“starting”.

We’re pretty much running out of ideas. Anyone knows something we may
try? Did the change in the server’s fixed IP ruined some internal
config?

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-10-2010 , 05:28 PM






On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 23:22:25 +0100, JR <not (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:

Forgot to add: also checked DNS, all is well.

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-10-2010 , 05:51 PM



On Aug 10, 3:22*pm, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
Quote:
Hello folks
*I’m trying to find a solution for a strange problem.

First, let me say that my knowledge of Oracle is almost nil. I’m the
local Windows tech support, am am trying to help the Oracle admins to
fix this.

We have a Oracle 10g server which was set up in a fixed IP Windows
2003 server (call it server1, temporary IP 111.111.111.111). After it
was set up, everything seemed to go ok: every other workstation could
access it via web portal (http://server1, and application athttp://server1/pls/prt)

However, we have now changed the IP of the server to it’s definitive
(call it 111.111.222.222); since then, the only workstations that can
accesshttp://server1are workstations with fixed IP; any workstation
that uses DHCP-assigned IP gets “page doesn’t exist). I’ve tried
putting the servers name+IP on the workstations host file, but no
luck. Also, many workstations with fixed IP can only reach the basic
portal (http://server1);reachinghttp://server1/pls/prtis reserved
for a few…

The workstations can ping the server’s IP at will, and can access it
using Windows remote access. I tried a tracert from both the
DHCP-based and the fixed IP workstations, and the results were the
same: path was straight from PC to server. All Oracle servers seem to
be running, except “OracleCSS”, which is allways in a state of
“starting”.

We’re pretty much running out of ideas. Anyone knows something we may
try? Did the change in the server’s fixed IP ruined some internal
config?
Oracle's support is accessible at support.oracle.com. Normally
someone supporting Oracle should have access to that, where you can
search for answers to questions like this - you _need_ paid support.
There is also tahiti.oracle.com, which is the doc set, available to
all. Obviously, there is way too much you are expected to know. One
thing is you should never hard code ip addresses.

Anyways, it is considered bad form in general to post support notes
here, but this is a general one, not an exhaustive list (Note
734559.1):

---
Please check whether you have any hardcoded IP addresses present in
the following places:

* Listener configuration (LISTENER.ORA on server)
* TNS Name Services (TNSNAMES.ORA on server and clients)
* Oracle Names Services (ONAMES)
* Oracle Internet Directory (OID)
* TCP valid nodes list and/or invalid node list (e.g. check for tcp.
invited_nodes and tcp.excluded_nodes statements in local/remote
servers' SQLNET.ORA)
* Database initialization parameters that allow Hostname/IP address
specifications (INIT<SID>.ORA, SPFile)
o LOCAL_LISTENER
o REMOTE_LISTENER
o DISPATCHERS
---

You can run tnsping from your clients to see whether the listener is
running and that you can get to it.

More info about this group: http://dbaoracle.net/readme-cdos.htm

You need to post more info about your exact oracle version, what app
you are running, did you use the same user to change the oracle
configuration as to install it, and so forth. There are also likely
to be log files in various places that should be getting errors. From
the server command line, try running lsnrctl status.

See http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thre...readID=1095622 for
some things to try (found by googling change windows ip address for
oracle).

jg
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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 01:59 AM



On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:51:11 -0700 (PDT), joel garry
<joel-garry (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:


Quote:
Oracle's support is accessible at support.oracle.com. Normally
someone supporting Oracle should have access to that, where you can
search for answers to questions like this - you _need_ paid support.
Sadly, our bosses have decided not to renew Oracle licenses this year,
to cut costs. So, now, we have no support

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 05:16 AM



On 11 Aug, 07:59, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
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So, now, we have no support
Or an application. Your bosses ever heard the phrase "false economy"?

-g

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 07:46 AM



JR:

# Sadly, our bosses have decided not to renew Oracle licenses this
year, to cut costs. So, now, we have no support

If your Oracle admin staff cannot help you troubleshoot simple
connectivity issues and you don't have an oracle support contract
better get your resume up to date ...

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 08:27 AM



On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT), gazzag <gareth (AT) jamms (DOT) org>
wrote:

Quote:
On 11 Aug, 07:59, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
So, now, we have no support

Or an application. Your bosses ever heard the phrase "false economy"?

-g
They are all professional acountants... they don't get this untill it
blows in their faces...

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 12:27 PM



On Aug 11, 6:27*am, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT), gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org
wrote:

On 11 Aug, 07:59, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
So, now, we have no support

Or an application. *Your bosses ever heard the phrase "false economy"?

-g

They are all professional acountants... they don't get this untill it
blows in their faces...
Yet they pay for insurance for various things. You might point out
how much time-and-materials costs versus the support contract. You
might point out there is a whole industry that has figured out what
best practices are, having already made the mistakes, and another
whole industry based on fixing the problems people run into not
following such practices.

You are also welcome to point out that expensive people are laughing
at them right now, and would be rubbing their hands in greedy glee,
except they're too busy to bother with such cheapos.

You can entertain us even more if they say things like "we don't need
backups, we have this SAN that will never die, guaranteed."

Get a contract dba in there to fix your problems (there's never just
one...), that may open some eyes.

jg
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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 12:31 PM



On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:27:38 -0700 (PDT), joel garry
<joel-garry (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
On Aug 11, 6:27*am, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT), gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org
wrote:

On 11 Aug, 07:59, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:


Get a contract dba in there to fix your problems (there's never just
one...), that may open some eyes.

We were forced to do this today. Our oracle-people are just
programmers...

You should see the bosses' faces when they saw the cost-per-hour of
the DBA

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Default Re: Problem with network access Oracle 10g - 08-11-2010 , 04:30 PM



JR wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:27:38 -0700 (PDT), joel garry
joel-garry (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

On Aug 11, 6:27 am, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:16:09 -0700 (PDT), gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org
wrote:

On 11 Aug, 07:59, JR <n... (AT) mine (DOT) mn> wrote:


Get a contract dba in there to fix your problems (there's never just
one...), that may open some eyes.


We were forced to do this today. Our oracle-people are just
programmers...

You should see the bosses' faces when they saw the cost-per-hour of
the DBA
Show them this:
http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=Acco...&q2=Oracle+DBA

:-p

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