Apparently this went quietly unnoticed?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...0,693803.story
I'll bet that "strategic investment" in flash technology for MOS is
looking pretty much silly and infantile now, eh?
Never mind, Lazza will buy the company and make the crap last longer
just like he did with sun and java.
Yes: I despise both of those technologies, any prob with that? :-)

On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 13:20:53 -0800, Noons wrote:

You forgot XML. That is also a piece of ... something.



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On Dec 5, 1:20*pm, Noons <wizofo... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
What's wrong with sun? I have a bit of a soft spot, 1.mumble on a
pizza box was the first unix I ran Oracle on, 20 years ago.

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On Dec 5, 3:34*pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
XML is perfectly fine for what it was designed for, a simple markup
language. The crap is from misusing it far beyond that, like using it
as a database language, trying to force a schema on it, or is it the
other way around?

I'm still wondering about the errors browsers get looking at the XE
alert log. "Cannot view xml input using xsl style sheet...Only one
top level element allowed in an xml document".

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On Dec 7, 4:30*am, joel garry <joel-ga... (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

they invented and promoted that abomination called java and its even
worse evil spawn:
j2ee.

On Dec 6, 5:27*pm, Noons <wizofo... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I do not use the FLASH version of MOS - it was a piece of stinking
<stuff>... use https://supporthtml.oracle.com - it bypasses FLASH.
The interface is a bit different, but it actually works... especially
when your work desktop cannot download or install the FLASH +patch of
the day.

On Dec 6, 2:35*pm, onedbguru <onedbg... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Trying to be a good DBA 2.0 even though I despise flash, I actually do
use the flash version. It has some silliness, and certainly some
design deficiencies, but it does work most of the time nowadays.
Sometimes I'll go to a website on a different browser window, which
might have some little flash thing on it that crashes, and then go
back to the MOS window to find flash crashed displaying some silly
puzzle piece. I laugh in its general direction.

I surely understand and share Noon's opinion of java, but it has long
ago reached critical mass and isn't going away any time soon. I'm
perhaps more understanding of it away from the db arena. I'd love to
have the haxxor cred to push my dirty catbox into someone elses device
and make their pixels melt down the screen (yes, I still have that on
my Amiga). Bwahaha.

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On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:52:58 -0800, joel garry wrote:

It wouldn't be too late to rewrite all those apps in Perl. It's portable,
powerful and much more convenient than Java. Gosling and McNealy could
say that Java was a prank gone bad and that they have never thought that
it would catch on like it did. Also, rewriting all those applications in
Perl would dramatically improve employment figures in the US.

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;



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On Dec 7, 1:15*pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Or it likely could help deliver (con)Fusion on time and on budget?
Instead of the total debacle it's been...

Heck, the Attorney General Department here in NSW never delivered a
multi-million dollar development in j2ee after 10 (T-E-N!!!!) years of
duh-velopment. Eventually they threw the whole lot out, as they
should have done 10 years before if they had had any brains to start
with...

But you'd hear the bozos there talking about their "application" as if
it was the second coming!
"It far surpasses anything ever done, look: see this bynamic drop box?
Amazing, isn't it?" and other pearls (no pun intended!) of
"development nirvana" I witnessed.

When in 2003 I asked how many screens they had to do, they said: "28!
It is a MAJOR system, do you understand?".
Of course: me delivering in 2004 a fully operational 78 screen
application to NSW Mining Department in 8 months, fully debugged and
tested, was a figment to be ignored.
Because it was done in Forms, instead of a "proper environment".

Anyone asking me to have ANY respect for these bozos is asking the
impossible.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:37:16 -0800, Noons wrote:


One of the great mistakes by Oracle Corp. is downplaying and eventually
extinguishing Oracle*Forms. Oracle 3.0 was a phenomenally useful and
simple tool. Unfortunately, it didn't have GUI (or gooey) interface.
Oracle*Forms 4.x was slightly more complex but still usable. After that,
I've never seen anybody using it. Frankly, Groovy and Hibernate are far
too complex and are frequently creating more problems than they're
solving.
Unfortunately, Java is the new COBOL. COBOL, as you know, used to stand
for Completely Obsolete and Badly Overused Language. Just as COBOL was
utilized by the vast majority of companies right up, until 2000, Java is
going the same way. IT is very akin to the fashion industry. Sometimes,
good things like Oracle*Forms are simply no longer in, just like bell
bottom pants. Larry has always had good nose for fashion. I don't know
whether Larry wears Prada, but it would be appropriate.


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