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Gerard H. Pille
 
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Default known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-14-2010 , 01:11 PM






Can someone tell me about a bug in 10.2.0.1, which would cause excessive undo with heavy dml on
ASSM tablespaces? I found mention of this bug in a post dating back to 2006, but no number.

I think this bug would be a good reason for upgrading, an application used by my employer does
excessive dml, and until today, I didn't realize a more recent version could provide better
performance.

Any other reasons for leaving 10.2.0.1 behind are also very welcome. Should we go for 10.2.0.4
or 10.2.0.5 immediately?

Thanks,

Gerard

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Gerard H. Pille
 
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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-14-2010 , 01:26 PM






Gerard H. Pille wrote:
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Can someone tell me about a bug in 10.2.0.1, which would cause excessive
undo with heavy dml on ASSM tablespaces? I found mention of this bug in
a post dating back to 2006, but no number.

I think this bug would be a good reason for upgrading, an application
used by my employer does excessive dml, and until today, I didn't
realize a more recent version could provide better performance.

Any other reasons for leaving 10.2.0.1 behind are also very welcome.
Should we go for 10.2.0.4 or 10.2.0.5 immediately?

Thanks,

Gerard


ah, on supporthtml.oracle.com, I found 3610777 and 4288876, but one thing bothers me, about the
fix for 4288876:

Note: The fix for this bug introduces a potentially serious
problem as described in bug 4597251. It is advisable
for any customer with a one off patch for this bug
(4288876) to replace it by the fix for bug 4597251 .

where there is talk of block corruption. I prefer lesser performance to block corruption.
Would I run this risk with one of the more recent versions?

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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-14-2010 , 02:08 PM



On Sep 14, 11:26*am, "Gerard H. Pille" <g... (AT) skynet (DOT) be> wrote:
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Gerard H. Pille wrote:
Can someone tell me about a bug in 10.2.0.1, which would cause excessive
undo with heavy dml on ASSM tablespaces? I found mention of this bug in
a post dating back to 2006, but no number.

I think this bug would be a good reason for upgrading, an application
used by my employer does excessive dml, and until today, I didn't
realize a more recent version could provide better performance.

Any other reasons for leaving 10.2.0.1 behind are also very welcome.
Should we go for 10.2.0.4 or 10.2.0.5 immediately?

Thanks,

Gerard

ah, on supporthtml.oracle.com, I found 3610777 and 4288876, but one thingbothers me, about the
fix for 4288876:

Note: The fix for this bug introduces a potentially serious
* * * *problem as described in bug 4597251. It is advisable
* * * *for any customer with a one off patch for this bug
* * * *(4288876) to replace it by the fix for bug 4597251 .

where there is talk of block corruption. *I prefer lesser performance to block corruption.
Would I run this risk with one of the more recent versions?
You'd run less risk on the recent versions than on the unpatched
version IMO, but there are still ASSM bugs. If you google assm
jonathan lewis you'll perhaps find posts about 10.2.0.4. Talk to
support about what you've found and see what they say. My guess is
these performance bugs mostly show up with high concurrency
situations, or the specific cases people like Charles Hooper have
posted about. I ran into one performance situation, made a note to
myself to investigate a one-off patch, then forgot about it until you
just reminded me. Corruption does tend to be more noticeable.

jg
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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-14-2010 , 03:37 PM



joel garry wrote:
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You'd run less risk on the recent versions than on the unpatched
version IMO, but there are still ASSM bugs. If you google assm
jonathan lewis you'll perhaps find posts about 10.2.0.4. Talk to
support about what you've found and see what they say. My guess is
these performance bugs mostly show up with high concurrency
situations, or the specific cases people like Charles Hooper have
posted about. I ran into one performance situation, made a note to
myself to investigate a one-off patch, then forgot about it until you
just reminded me. Corruption does tend to be more noticeable.

jg
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Drop ASSM altogether?

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John Hurley
 
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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-14-2010 , 06:22 PM



On Sep 14, 2:11*pm, "Gerard H. Pille" <g... (AT) skynet (DOT) be> wrote:
Quote:
Can someone tell me about a bug in 10.2.0.1, which would cause excessive undo with heavy dml on
ASSM tablespaces? *I found mention of this bug in a post dating back to2006, but no number.

I think this bug would be a good reason for upgrading, an application used by my employer does
excessive dml, and until today, I didn't realize a more recent version could provide better
performance.

Any other reasons for leaving 10.2.0.1 behind are also very welcome. *Should we go for 10.2.0.4
or 10.2.0.5 immediately?

Thanks,

Gerard
10.2.0.1? Really?

I just have on 10.2 system left but it is over on solaris and ( not
used heavily ) and stable on 10.2.0.4.

I would think you want to look at 10.2.0.5 and research bugs on that
port to aix.

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Noons
 
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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-14-2010 , 08:45 PM



On Sep 15, 4:11*am, "Gerard H. Pille" <g... (AT) skynet (DOT) be> wrote:

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Any other reasons for leaving 10.2.0.1 behind are also very welcome. *Should we go for 10.2.0.4
or 10.2.0.5 immediately?

Dunno about those two, but I'm running 10.2.0.3 patched up and it is
stable as a rock.
However, I am not using ASSM. Nor RAC. Aix 64-bit 5L.

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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-15-2010 , 02:45 AM



On Sep 15, 11:45*am, Noons <wizofo... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Sep 15, 4:11*am, "Gerard H. Pille" <g... (AT) skynet (DOT) be> wrote:



Any other reasons for leaving 10.2.0.1 behind are also very welcome. *Should we go for 10.2.0.4
or 10.2.0.5 immediately?

Dunno about those two, but I'm running 10.2.0.3 patched up and it is
stable as a rock.
However, I am not using ASSM. *Nor RAC. *Aix 64-bit 5L.
Apologies: we ARE using ASSM. What we are not using is ASM. Darn
Oracle and their acronyms...

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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-15-2010 , 08:17 AM



Nuno:

# Dunno about those two, but I'm running 10.2.0.3 patched up and it is
stable as a rock. However, I am not using ASSM. *Nor RAC. *Aix 64-bit
5L.

Just the 10.2.0.3 patchset? Or 10.2.0.3 patchset with various other
one offs? ( Sorry the "patched up" terminology not clear at least to
me ).

Any particular reason you have not gone past 10.2.0.3?

How about the CPUs and ( just more recently ) the PSUs?

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Gerard H. Pille
 
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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-15-2010 , 11:35 AM



Noons wrote:
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Apologies: we ARE using ASSM. What we are not using is ASM. Darn
Oracle and their acronyms...
I'd better check what they mean too.

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Gerard H. Pille
 
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Default Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit - 09-15-2010 , 11:52 AM



Gerard H. Pille wrote:
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Noons wrote:

Apologies: we ARE using ASSM. What we are not using is ASM. Darn
Oracle and their acronyms...

I'd better check what they mean too.
Ok, ASSM is what I thought it was, Automatic Segment Space Misery.

All these features making the DBA obsolete, you think? All the time I spent trying to improve
the performance of this database, and only because of an ORA-01555 with a parallel query that I
was investigating, Google came up with this bug, and I realized this database ran a version
that's almost 4 years old. Losing my touch.

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