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Default Re: Backup of D:\oracle on Windows - 06-17-2008 , 01:14 PM






On Jun 17, 5:29*am, gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org> wrote:
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On 17 Jun, 13:11, howard <pkowa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



1. Yes, it is the ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_BASE.
2. The datafiles would reside on a LUN on a separate drive.
3. Shut it down if I want to do a cold copy.

Thanks

Howard

Howard, you can't use RMAN to backup a file system. *Ideally, if any,
the only files being written to under ORACLE_HOME will be your dump
files. *"show parameter dump" will confirm whether this is the case or
not. *As long as there are no database files (data files, redo etc)
under ORACLE_HOME, I'd look into using the "xcopy" command from the
command prompt.

HTH

-g
You might be able to do something like create a stored procedure that
does the OS command (one example: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/...sFromPLSQL.php
), then see the docs for "Executing a PL/SQL Stored Procedure Within
RMAN: Example".

But I have this vague memory that xcopy misses a file if the db is not
shutdown... or is it some service? Too long since I've tried it. I
do think there is value in backing up non-data Oracle, all those
config files for EM and whatall can be screwed up so easily.

jg
--
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http://brucefwebster.com/2008/06/16/...ay-it-project/


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joel garry
 
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Default Re: Backup of D:\oracle on Windows - 06-17-2008 , 01:14 PM






On Jun 17, 5:29*am, gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
On 17 Jun, 13:11, howard <pkowa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



1. Yes, it is the ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_BASE.
2. The datafiles would reside on a LUN on a separate drive.
3. Shut it down if I want to do a cold copy.

Thanks

Howard

Howard, you can't use RMAN to backup a file system. *Ideally, if any,
the only files being written to under ORACLE_HOME will be your dump
files. *"show parameter dump" will confirm whether this is the case or
not. *As long as there are no database files (data files, redo etc)
under ORACLE_HOME, I'd look into using the "xcopy" command from the
command prompt.

HTH

-g
You might be able to do something like create a stored procedure that
does the OS command (one example: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/...sFromPLSQL.php
), then see the docs for "Executing a PL/SQL Stored Procedure Within
RMAN: Example".

But I have this vague memory that xcopy misses a file if the db is not
shutdown... or is it some service? Too long since I've tried it. I
do think there is value in backing up non-data Oracle, all those
config files for EM and whatall can be screwed up so easily.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://brucefwebster.com/2008/06/16/...ay-it-project/


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joel garry
 
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Default Re: Backup of D:\oracle on Windows - 06-17-2008 , 01:14 PM



On Jun 17, 5:29*am, gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
On 17 Jun, 13:11, howard <pkowa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



1. Yes, it is the ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_BASE.
2. The datafiles would reside on a LUN on a separate drive.
3. Shut it down if I want to do a cold copy.

Thanks

Howard

Howard, you can't use RMAN to backup a file system. *Ideally, if any,
the only files being written to under ORACLE_HOME will be your dump
files. *"show parameter dump" will confirm whether this is the case or
not. *As long as there are no database files (data files, redo etc)
under ORACLE_HOME, I'd look into using the "xcopy" command from the
command prompt.

HTH

-g
You might be able to do something like create a stored procedure that
does the OS command (one example: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/...sFromPLSQL.php
), then see the docs for "Executing a PL/SQL Stored Procedure Within
RMAN: Example".

But I have this vague memory that xcopy misses a file if the db is not
shutdown... or is it some service? Too long since I've tried it. I
do think there is value in backing up non-data Oracle, all those
config files for EM and whatall can be screwed up so easily.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://brucefwebster.com/2008/06/16/...ay-it-project/


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joel garry
 
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Default Re: Backup of D:\oracle on Windows - 06-17-2008 , 01:14 PM



On Jun 17, 5:29*am, gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
On 17 Jun, 13:11, howard <pkowa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



1. Yes, it is the ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_BASE.
2. The datafiles would reside on a LUN on a separate drive.
3. Shut it down if I want to do a cold copy.

Thanks

Howard

Howard, you can't use RMAN to backup a file system. *Ideally, if any,
the only files being written to under ORACLE_HOME will be your dump
files. *"show parameter dump" will confirm whether this is the case or
not. *As long as there are no database files (data files, redo etc)
under ORACLE_HOME, I'd look into using the "xcopy" command from the
command prompt.

HTH

-g
You might be able to do something like create a stored procedure that
does the OS command (one example: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/...sFromPLSQL.php
), then see the docs for "Executing a PL/SQL Stored Procedure Within
RMAN: Example".

But I have this vague memory that xcopy misses a file if the db is not
shutdown... or is it some service? Too long since I've tried it. I
do think there is value in backing up non-data Oracle, all those
config files for EM and whatall can be screwed up so easily.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://brucefwebster.com/2008/06/16/...ay-it-project/


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joel garry
 
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Default Re: Backup of D:\oracle on Windows - 06-17-2008 , 01:14 PM



On Jun 17, 5:29*am, gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
On 17 Jun, 13:11, howard <pkowa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



1. Yes, it is the ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_BASE.
2. The datafiles would reside on a LUN on a separate drive.
3. Shut it down if I want to do a cold copy.

Thanks

Howard

Howard, you can't use RMAN to backup a file system. *Ideally, if any,
the only files being written to under ORACLE_HOME will be your dump
files. *"show parameter dump" will confirm whether this is the case or
not. *As long as there are no database files (data files, redo etc)
under ORACLE_HOME, I'd look into using the "xcopy" command from the
command prompt.

HTH

-g
You might be able to do something like create a stored procedure that
does the OS command (one example: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/...sFromPLSQL.php
), then see the docs for "Executing a PL/SQL Stored Procedure Within
RMAN: Example".

But I have this vague memory that xcopy misses a file if the db is not
shutdown... or is it some service? Too long since I've tried it. I
do think there is value in backing up non-data Oracle, all those
config files for EM and whatall can be screwed up so easily.

jg
--
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http://brucefwebster.com/2008/06/16/...ay-it-project/


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joel garry
 
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Default Re: Backup of D:\oracle on Windows - 06-17-2008 , 01:14 PM



On Jun 17, 5:29*am, gazzag <gar... (AT) jamms (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
On 17 Jun, 13:11, howard <pkowa... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:



1. Yes, it is the ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_BASE.
2. The datafiles would reside on a LUN on a separate drive.
3. Shut it down if I want to do a cold copy.

Thanks

Howard

Howard, you can't use RMAN to backup a file system. *Ideally, if any,
the only files being written to under ORACLE_HOME will be your dump
files. *"show parameter dump" will confirm whether this is the case or
not. *As long as there are no database files (data files, redo etc)
under ORACLE_HOME, I'd look into using the "xcopy" command from the
command prompt.

HTH

-g
You might be able to do something like create a stored procedure that
does the OS command (one example: http://www.oracle-base.com/articles/...sFromPLSQL.php
), then see the docs for "Executing a PL/SQL Stored Procedure Within
RMAN: Example".

But I have this vague memory that xcopy misses a file if the db is not
shutdown... or is it some service? Too long since I've tried it. I
do think there is value in backing up non-data Oracle, all those
config files for EM and whatall can be screwed up so easily.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://brucefwebster.com/2008/06/16/...ay-it-project/


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