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Steve Howard
 
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Default Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 08:56 AM






Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. All I end up with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
oerr ora $i
i=$(($i + 1))
done

....and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better

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John Hurley
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 09:20 AM






Steve:

# Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution.

What's your error exactly?

I usually try a combo type search with a few relevant words
( sometimes hard to figure out what to include ) along with error
number ... often useful sometimes not so much.

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Mark D Powell
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 10:38 AM



On Jan 21, 9:56*am, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. *All I end up with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
* oerr ora $i
* i=$(($i + 1))
done

...and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better
Finding good information of interest can be a problem. So often your
top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
trusted.

I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
searches.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --

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joel garry
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 11:40 AM



On Jan 21, 8:38*am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe... (AT) hp (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 21, 9:56*am, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. *All I end up with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
* oerr ora $i
* i=$(($i + 1))
done

...and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better
I hear ya. I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?

Quote:
Finding good information of interest can be a problem. *So often your
top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
trusted.

I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
searches.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --
If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
and oracle-l links high up anyways. As John noted, just a few words
can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
or quoted phrases not in the error messages. I mentally reject some
sites anyways.

I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
messages.

While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
(not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
pointing at this: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
DMCA-claim to google.

So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? Maybe they have bigger
fish to fry: http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011...cles-case.html

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/...Section=N ews

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Steve Howard
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 03:37 PM



On Jan 21, 12:40*pm, joel garry <joel-ga... (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 21, 8:38*am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe... (AT) hp (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 9:56*am, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. *All I end up with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
* oerr ora $i
* i=$(($i + 1))
done

...and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better

I hear ya. *I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?



Finding good information of interest can be a problem. *So often your
top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
trusted.

I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
searches.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --

If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
and oracle-l links high up anyways. *As John noted, just a few words
can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
or quoted phrases not in the error messages. *I mentally reject some
sites anyways.

I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
messages.

While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
(not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
pointing at this: *http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
DMCA-claim to google.

So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? *Maybe they have bigger
fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011...pports-oracles...

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/...ty/showArticle...
I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I
always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages
of google hits, after briefly scanning them. I also do a lot of
literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be
problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.

It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives
me crazy. Not a huge deal, just an annoyance.

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The Boss
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 06:03 PM



On Jan 21, 10:37*pm, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 21, 12:40*pm, joel garry <joel-ga... (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:





On Jan 21, 8:38*am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe... (AT) hp (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 9:56*am, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. *All I end up with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
* oerr ora $i
* i=$(($i + 1))
done

...and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better

I hear ya. *I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?

Finding good information of interest can be a problem. *So often your
top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
trusted.

I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
searches.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --

If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
and oracle-l links high up anyways. *As John noted, just a few words
can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
or quoted phrases not in the error messages. *I mentally reject some
sites anyways.

I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
messages.

While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
(not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
pointing at this: *http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
DMCA-claim to google.

So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? *Maybe they have bigger
fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011...pports-oracles...

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/...ty/showArticle...

I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I
always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages
of google hits, after briefly scanning them. *I also do a lot of
literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be
problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.

It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives
me crazy. *Not a huge deal, just an annoyance.
Jonathan and Tanel to the rescue!

http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/firefox/
[pointing to a firefox add-on and a (less sophisticated) IE version]

http://blog.tanelpoder.com/2008/06/1...search-engine/
[explaining and pointing to Tanel's "Soda Search" engine at:]
http://tanelpoder.com/search/

HTH

--
J

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The Boss
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 06:15 PM



On Jan 22, 1:03*am, The Boss <nlt... (AT) baasbovenbaas (DOT) demon.nl> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 21, 10:37*pm, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:





On Jan 21, 12:40*pm, joel garry <joel-ga... (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 8:38*am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe... (AT) hp (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 9:56*am, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. *All I end up with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
* oerr ora $i
* i=$(($i + 1))
done

...and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better

I hear ya. *I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?

Finding good information of interest can be a problem. *So often your
top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
trusted.

I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
searches.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --

If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
and oracle-l links high up anyways. *As John noted, just a few words
can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
or quoted phrases not in the error messages. *I mentally reject some
sites anyways.

I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
messages.

While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
(not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
pointing at this: *http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
DMCA-claim to google.

So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? *Maybe they have bigger
fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011...pports-oracles...

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/...ty/showArticle...

I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I
always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages
of google hits, after briefly scanning them. *I also do a lot of
literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be
problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.

It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives
me crazy. *Not a huge deal, just an annoyance.

Jonathan and Tanel to the rescue!

http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/firefox/
[pointing to a firefox add-on and a (less sophisticated) IE version]

http://blog.tanelpoder.com/2008/06/1...google-custom-...
[explaining and pointing to Tanel's "Soda Search" engine at:]http://tanelpoder.com/search/

Also try this miracle:
http://www.miracleoy.fi/search.html

Not sure it will offer help when searching error-codes, but just give
it a go with 'oracle burleson' as an example search-string to see what
it comes up with ...

--
J

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John Hurley
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 06:22 PM



The Boss:

# Also try this miracle:http://www.miracleoy.fi/search.html
....

Not sure it will offer help when searching error-codes, but just give
it a go with 'oracle burleson' as an example search-string to see what
it comes up with ...

Does it include pictures of the famous bloody nose incident?

All I am seeing in things like circular references and undocumented
and untested etc ...

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The Boss
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-21-2011 , 08:55 PM



On Jan 22, 1:22*am, John Hurley <hurleyjo... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
The Boss:

# Also try this miracle:http://www.miracleoy.fi/search.html
...

Not sure it will offer help when searching error-codes, but just give
it a go with 'oracle burleson' as an example search-string to see what
it comes up with ...

Does it include pictures of the famous bloody nose incident?

All I am seeing in things like circular references and undocumented
and untested etc ...
When I do a search for 'oracle burleson' (without the quotes) the
first result page has 8 links, 5 of them point to Jonathan Lewis
website or blog, 2 to asktom and 1 to the orafaq site.
Page 2: 5 for JL again, 1 for Tom Kyte, 1 for Kevin Closson and the
final one point to an intervew with 'he who's name shouldn't be
mentioned'.
Page 3: 3 for JL, 1 asktom, 2 Richard Foote, 1 Pete Finnigan and 1 to
amazon to a book written by ... (you guessed it, right?).
Page 4: 2 for Charles Hooper, 1 for Kerry Osborne, TomK again and
PeteF <...>

See what I'm getting at?
Not even a single link to one of the websites of the guy mentioned in
the search string.
Like I said: a miracle ...

--
J

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jimmyb
 
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Default Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites? - 01-24-2011 , 04:06 PM



On Jan 21, 4:15*pm, The Boss <nlt... (AT) baasbovenbaas (DOT) demon.nl> wrote:
Quote:
On Jan 22, 1:03*am, The Boss <nlt... (AT) baasbovenbaas (DOT) demon.nl> wrote:



On Jan 21, 10:37*pm, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 12:40*pm, joel garry <joel-ga... (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 8:38*am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe... (AT) hp (DOT) com> wrote:

On Jan 21, 9:56*am, Steve Howard <stevedhow... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. *I have a particular
error message for which I am searching a solution. *All I endup with
are hits for some moron that wrote...

i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
* oerr ora $i
* i=$(($i + 1))
done

...and uploaded the output on the internet.

There...now I feel better

I hear ya. *I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?

Finding good information of interest can be a problem. *So often your
top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
trusted.

I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
searches.

HTH -- Mark D Powell --

If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
and oracle-l links high up anyways. *As John noted, just a few words
can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
or quoted phrases not in the error messages. *I mentally reject some
sites anyways.

I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
messages.

While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
(not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
pointing at this: *http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
DMCA-claim to google.

So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? *Maybe they have bigger
fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011...pports-oracles...

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/...ty/showArticle...

I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I
always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages
of google hits, after briefly scanning them. *I also do a lot of
literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be
problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.

It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives
me crazy. *Not a huge deal, just an annoyance.

Jonathan and Tanel to the rescue!

http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/firefox/
[pointing to a firefox add-on and a (less sophisticated) IE version]

http://blog.tanelpoder.com/2008/06/1...google-custom-...
[explaining and pointing to Tanel's "Soda Search" engine at:]http://tanelpoder.com/search/

Also try this miracle:http://www.miracleoy.fi/search.html

Not sure it will offer help when searching error-codes, but just give
it a go with 'oracle burleson' as an example search-string to see what
it comes up with ...

--
J
I believe you just mentioned "he who must not be named" ;-)

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