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riverdance
 
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Default about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-03-2010 , 08:41 AM






Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.

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Rob Burton
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-03-2010 , 10:33 AM






On Aug 3, 2:41*pm, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? *if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.
scp can be used to transfer files, or pscp if you're using putty (a
separate download , which also has psftp which I'd guess would do ftp
too.)

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riverdance
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-03-2010 , 10:49 AM



On Aug 3, 11:33*am, Rob Burton <burton.... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 3, 2:41*pm, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:





Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? *if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.

scp can be used to transfer files, or pscp if you're using putty (a
separate download , which also has psftp which I'd guess would do ftp
too.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Hi, Thanks.

I tried winscp before , not sure if that is the same scp you
mentioned, it seems need to input userid and PW again.. I'm looking
for some tools which just need login once and could do FTP and SSH
without going through login process again...

I would try to find pscp /psftp to see if that works..

Thanks a lot.

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Robert Weiss
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-04-2010 , 01:17 AM



Quote:
I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?
I tried winscp before , not sure if that is the same scp you
mentioned, it seems need to input userid and PW again.. I'm looking
for some tools which just need login once and could do FTP and SSH
without going through login process again...
use pagent for loading your ssh keys and write the public keys into the
authorized_keys file on the server

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Mark D Powell
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-04-2010 , 07:32 AM



On Aug 3, 9:41*am, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? *if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.
"what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin work?"

I use sqlplus for most all my Daily Administration work. I use my own
scripts for querying and monitoring the database(s).

Oracle Enterprise Manager tool is OK if you buy the additional cost
Performance and Diagnostic Packs otherwise I feel you are better off
to stick to using sqlplus or maybe Oracle's free SQL Developer tool.

IMHO -- Mark D Powell --

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Carlos
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-04-2010 , 07:50 AM



On Aug 4, 2:32*pm, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe... (AT) hp (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 3, 9:41*am, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:



Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? *if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.

"what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin work?"

I use sqlplus for most all my Daily Administration work. *I use my own
scripts for querying and monitoring the database(s).

Oracle Enterprise Manager tool is OK if you buy the additional cost
Performance and Diagnostic Packs otherwise I feel you are better off
to stick to using sqlplus or maybe Oracle's free SQL Developer tool.

IMHO -- Mark D Powell --
"I use sqlplus for most all my Daily Administration work. I use my
own scripts for querying and monitoring the database(s)."

"I feel you are better off to stick to using sqlplus"

+1

I'm definitely with Mark on this one.

Cheers.

Carlos.

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gazzag
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-04-2010 , 07:56 AM



On 4 Aug, 13:50, Carlos <miotromailcar... (AT) netscape (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
+1

I'm definitely with Mark on this one.

Cheers.

Carlos.
I agree. Also, SQL Developer is included as a replacement to the
Windows version of SQL*Plus with Oracle 11gR1 onwards.

-g

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Tim X
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-05-2010 , 07:51 PM



riverdance <esthershensh (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes:

Quote:
On Aug 3, 11:33Â*am, Rob Burton <burton.... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Aug 3, 2:41Â*pm, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:





Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? Â*if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.

scp can be used to transfer files, or pscp if you're using putty (a
separate download , which also has psftp which I'd guess would do ftp
too.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi, Thanks.

I tried winscp before , not sure if that is the same scp you
mentioned, it seems need to input userid and PW again.. I'm looking
for some tools which just need login once and could do FTP and SSH
without going through login process again...

I would try to find pscp /psftp to see if that works..

This is normally handled by an ssh-agent. Don't know what the state is
under windows, but under Linux and probably Mac, you simply start up an
ssh-agent as part of your session startup (the agent needs to run in the
parent process of processes you wish to use it from).

With the ssh-agent running, the first time you try to go to a remote
host, using either ssh or scp, you are asked for you passphrase via a
popup (or command line if not running under a GUI). From that point on,
the ssh-agent handles the passphrase for you - you will not be prompted
again for the passphrase when you next visit that host or use scp to
copy files to that host.

Other alternatives would be

* use emacs with its built-in 'tramp' mode. Allows you to edit remote
files and copy files from local to remote host and vice-versa. Steep
learning curve if your not familiar with it.

* Set up an NFS, SMB or similar share. If your on windows, setup samba
on your server

* Use something like dropbox

There are many other possible solutions. A lot depends on exactly what
you need to do and how often and what level of control/access you have
to the remote server. I personally rarely need to copy files to the
database. I run the Oracle instant client from my workstation and that
pretty much provides all I need 90% of the time. The only time I need to
copy files around is when I'm using external tables.

Tim

--
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

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Tim X
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-05-2010 , 07:53 PM



Mark D Powell <Mark.Powell2 (AT) hp (DOT) com> writes:

Quote:
On Aug 3, 9:41Â*am, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? Â*if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.

"what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin work?"

I use sqlplus for most all my Daily Administration work. I use my own
scripts for querying and monitoring the database(s).

Oracle Enterprise Manager tool is OK if you buy the additional cost
Performance and Diagnostic Packs otherwise I feel you are better off
to stick to using sqlplus or maybe Oracle's free SQL Developer tool.

+1 - agree and do the same

--
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

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riverdance
 
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Default Re: about good SSH tools with FTP function - 08-06-2010 , 02:42 PM



On Aug 5, 8:51*pm, Tim X <t... (AT) nospam (DOT) dev.null> wrote:
Quote:
riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> writes:
On Aug 3, 11:33*am, Rob Burton <burton.... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
On Aug 3, 2:41*pm, riverdance <esthershe... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi,
I still new in oracle world.
I had a basic question..about what kind of tools DBA used to access
oracle server to do their daily job.

I start doing some oracle admin work.. I also need ftp the files from
my desktop to Unix server from time to time.. is there any good tools
which could do both SSH and FTP ?

I used to use secure SSH, but it seems not good in oracle. every time,
from oracle sqlplus session, if I mistype something, it cannot be
corrected by backspace, the only way is retype the whole command from
begining..

so I had to switch to putty, since putty don't have this problem. but
it don't have FTP function, I had to use secure SSH to do the FTP , it
mean another login process..

I don't know what kind of tools oracle DBA use to do their daily admin
work? *if the tool had xwindows function, that would be great. since
it looks like some oracle software, must install under GUI , there is
no command option .

your suggestion is really appreciated.

scp can be used to transfer files, or pscp if you're using putty (a
separate download , which also has psftp which I'd guess would do ftp
too.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi, Thanks.

I tried winscp before , not sure if that is the same scp you
mentioned, it seems need to input userid and PW again.. I'm looking
for some tools which just need login once and could do FTP and SSH
without going through login process again...

I would try to find pscp /psftp to see if that works..

This is normally handled by an ssh-agent. Don't know what the state is
under windows, but under Linux and probably Mac, you simply start up an
ssh-agent as part of your session startup (the agent needs to run in the
parent process of processes you wish to use it from).

With the ssh-agent running, the first time you try to go to a remote
host, using either ssh or scp, you are asked for you passphrase via a
popup (or command line if not running under a GUI). From that point on,
the ssh-agent handles the passphrase for you - you will not be prompted
again for the passphrase when you next visit that host or use scp to
copy files to that host.

Other alternatives would be

* use emacs with its built-in 'tramp' mode. Allows you to edit remote
* files and copy files from local to remote host and vice-versa. Steep
* learning curve if your not familiar with it.

* Set up an NFS, SMB or similar share. If your on windows, setup samba
* on your server

* Use something like dropbox

There are many other possible solutions. A lot depends on exactly what
you need to do and how often and what level of control/access you have
to the remote server. I personally rarely need to copy files to the
database. I run the Oracle instant client from my workstation and that
pretty much provides all I need 90% of the time. The only time I need to
copy files around is when I'm using external tables.

Tim

--
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au- Hide quoted text -

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Tim/Mark , Very appreciated for your suggestion.

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