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Default oracle on windows - 04-19-2008 , 04:51 PM






We use Oracle RAC 10g on Windows. Everyone seems to complain about the
Windows aspect of it. I am just curious.. is it really a bad mix ? People
complain only because my DBAs do not come from a Windows background.


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Default Re: oracle on windows - 04-20-2008 , 03:36 PM



F wrote:
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We use Oracle RAC 10g on Windows. Everyone seems to complain about the
Windows aspect of it. I am just curious.. is it really a bad mix ?
People complain only because my DBAs do not come from a Windows background.


Let me know
Depends on the quality of the Windows admins. In most cases that means
it is terrible to mediocre. One thing we have repeatedly seen is that
failover on UNIX and Linux is generally sub-second with 2 seconds being
the maximum wait time. The same generality leads me to assume a 20-25
second failover on Windows Advanced Server 2003. One is acceptable the
other not.

But again I am not convinced it is a failing of Windows so much as the
very poor quality of the certified admins.

The most mediocre UNIX/Linux admin can edit etc/hosts, configure
kernel parameters, create symbolic links, and write shell scripts.
Most Windows admins are useless outside the GUI.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
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Default Re: oracle on windows - 04-20-2008 , 03:36 PM



F wrote:
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We use Oracle RAC 10g on Windows. Everyone seems to complain about the
Windows aspect of it. I am just curious.. is it really a bad mix ?
People complain only because my DBAs do not come from a Windows background.


Let me know
Depends on the quality of the Windows admins. In most cases that means
it is terrible to mediocre. One thing we have repeatedly seen is that
failover on UNIX and Linux is generally sub-second with 2 seconds being
the maximum wait time. The same generality leads me to assume a 20-25
second failover on Windows Advanced Server 2003. One is acceptable the
other not.

But again I am not convinced it is a failing of Windows so much as the
very poor quality of the certified admins.

The most mediocre UNIX/Linux admin can edit etc/hosts, configure
kernel parameters, create symbolic links, and write shell scripts.
Most Windows admins are useless outside the GUI.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org


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Default Re: oracle on windows - 04-20-2008 , 03:36 PM



F wrote:
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We use Oracle RAC 10g on Windows. Everyone seems to complain about the
Windows aspect of it. I am just curious.. is it really a bad mix ?
People complain only because my DBAs do not come from a Windows background.


Let me know
Depends on the quality of the Windows admins. In most cases that means
it is terrible to mediocre. One thing we have repeatedly seen is that
failover on UNIX and Linux is generally sub-second with 2 seconds being
the maximum wait time. The same generality leads me to assume a 20-25
second failover on Windows Advanced Server 2003. One is acceptable the
other not.

But again I am not convinced it is a failing of Windows so much as the
very poor quality of the certified admins.

The most mediocre UNIX/Linux admin can edit etc/hosts, configure
kernel parameters, create symbolic links, and write shell scripts.
Most Windows admins are useless outside the GUI.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org


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Default Re: oracle on windows - 04-20-2008 , 03:36 PM



F wrote:
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We use Oracle RAC 10g on Windows. Everyone seems to complain about the
Windows aspect of it. I am just curious.. is it really a bad mix ?
People complain only because my DBAs do not come from a Windows background.


Let me know
Depends on the quality of the Windows admins. In most cases that means
it is terrible to mediocre. One thing we have repeatedly seen is that
failover on UNIX and Linux is generally sub-second with 2 seconds being
the maximum wait time. The same generality leads me to assume a 20-25
second failover on Windows Advanced Server 2003. One is acceptable the
other not.

But again I am not convinced it is a failing of Windows so much as the
very poor quality of the certified admins.

The most mediocre UNIX/Linux admin can edit etc/hosts, configure
kernel parameters, create symbolic links, and write shell scripts.
Most Windows admins are useless outside the GUI.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org


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Default Re: oracle on windows - 04-21-2008 , 04:26 PM



On Apr 19, 2:51*pm, "F" <f... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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We use Oracle RAC 10g on Windows. Everyone seems to complain about the
Windows aspect of it. I am just curious.. is it really a bad mix ? People
complain only because my DBAs do not come from a Windows background.

Let me know
There may be an impedance mismatch if you have RAC for uptime and
periodically reboot Windows. (this would be another aspect of what
Dan said about Windows SA's). You might google for a classic paper
entitled "you probably don't need RAC" (except the licensing/cost
issues are different now).

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