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David Portas

On Jul 24, 5:43*pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --

On Jul 24, 5:43*pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --

On Jul 24, 5:43*pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --

On Jul 24, 5:43*pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --

"Mark D Powell" <Mark.Powell (AT) eds (DOT) com> wrote

On Jul 24, 5:43 pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --
I believe part of the marketing spin is that "Oracle doesn't scale to
terabytes. To scale to terabytes you need the proper hardware configuration
that only we can give you."

Of course, this is silly. Sure if you put Oracle on a very large, but slow
disk drive with a crappy processor it will perform poorly in just about any
range. (as would any vendor's product.) Yes, if you make it a physics
problem then Oracle will be slow.
Jim

"Mark D Powell" <Mark.Powell (AT) eds (DOT) com> wrote

On Jul 24, 5:43 pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --
I believe part of the marketing spin is that "Oracle doesn't scale to
terabytes. To scale to terabytes you need the proper hardware configuration
that only we can give you."

Of course, this is silly. Sure if you put Oracle on a very large, but slow
disk drive with a crappy processor it will perform poorly in just about any
range. (as would any vendor's product.) Yes, if you make it a physics
problem then Oracle will be slow.
Jim

"Mark D Powell" <Mark.Powell (AT) eds (DOT) com> wrote

On Jul 24, 5:43 pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --
I believe part of the marketing spin is that "Oracle doesn't scale to
terabytes. To scale to terabytes you need the proper hardware configuration
that only we can give you."

Of course, this is silly. Sure if you put Oracle on a very large, but slow
disk drive with a crappy processor it will perform poorly in just about any
range. (as would any vendor's product.) Yes, if you make it a physics
problem then Oracle will be slow.
Jim

"Mark D Powell" <Mark.Powell (AT) eds (DOT) com> wrote

On Jul 24, 5:43 pm, "David Portas"
<REMOVE_BEFORE_REPLYING_dpor... (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Not being familiar with the DATAllegro product it is hard to judge
especially since the independent author is also an unknown. Best I
can tell MS first has to actually integrate the software into SQL
Server before any real advantage can be gained over Oracle in the
Warehouse market. That is assuming that the integration is successful
and that differences in how SQL Server works and the current Ingres
engine work do not result in the loss or derogation of any of the
features.

Still it does sound like a good move on MS's part. I am however not
sure Oracle needs anyone else's product offering considering how
robust their current offerings already are.

Only time will tell.
-- Mark D Powell --
I believe part of the marketing spin is that "Oracle doesn't scale to
terabytes. To scale to terabytes you need the proper hardware configuration
that only we can give you."

Of course, this is silly. Sure if you put Oracle on a very large, but slow
disk drive with a crappy processor it will perform poorly in just about any
range. (as would any vendor's product.) Yes, if you make it a physics
problem then Oracle will be slow.
Jim

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Five million fly (OH, Win user) cannot be wrong, sh..t I mean s-server must
be good.
MS has massive margeting engine, none other reason cannot justifive current
situation.

Sadly, not the best systems does not always win markets.
Hope some day s-server will be grounded where it belongs.And some other
better will handle issues.
Vista has now shown the way... away of Windows