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Default Data Manipulation Programming Languages - 11-27-2007 , 04:59 PM






DATA MANIPULATION PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES

For Data Transformation and Data Preparation, there are several
choices. All of them are useful, none are perfect for every data
transformation problem. They fall into two broad categories:
specialized and all purpose. The family of data transformation
languages is fuzzy and has much overlap with the family of statistical
programming languages and the database management language(s):


SPECIALIZED PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES - less development time and
maintenance, and targeted for solving certain problems in particular:

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SQL - Primarily for data query and database management. Also useful
for some types of data transformation. SQL, of course, is an open
standard, which can be implemented by anyone.

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PARAGRAPH-STYLE STATISTICAL PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES:
SAS, SPSS, and Vilno. SAS is by far the most well known language in
this category. Vilno is the newest by far, not well known or mature,
but quite versatile for those who choose to look at it. SAS and SPSS
are both proprietary, and the two languages do not have a name other
than the name of the corporation that developed it. Most SPSS users do
not use the programming language underneath the user interface.

To be an open standard, a language has to be both non-proprietary and
widely used - there is no open standard paragraph-style statistical
programming language at this time. Also, the third famous statistical
programming language, S, is not paragraph style, because it's
structure and mentality is very different from SAS/SPSS.

Paragraph-style statistical programming languages are quite useful for
many different types of data transformation - including those where
SQL is the most elegant solution. This is because para-stat languages
have an absorbing philosophy - if a feature is useful, it can be
incorporated into the next revision as an additional procedure. ( For
example, Vilno data processing paragraphs can optionally begin with a
many-to-many join with a where clause, just like SQL SELECT , and SAS
has added the PROC SQL). Para-stat languages are the swiss army knifes
of data transformation.

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MDX - highly specialized for the purpose of query and some analyses
off of a multidimensional cube. Sometimes implemented under a GUI
( like SPSS ).


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ALL PURPOSE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES - you can do anything you want
with all purpose languages - if you have the time , for both
development and maintenance. The three that come to mind are:
Perl, Python, Ruby.

These three are considered at a higher productivity level than C or
Java. But if you have a data transformation project for which you
believe a specialized programming language will not suffice, you had
better set aside the time.

Also note that volunteers ( open source hackers ) are largely driving
innovation in all-purpose programming languages, but innovation in
specialized languages depends on the private sector more, and happens
much more slowly. Hackers tend not to fall in love with specialized
languages, not even SQL. But there are thousands of hackers out there
who dream of being the next Larry Wall.

The three most famous statistical programming languages ( SAS, SPSS,
and S ), along with SQL, are at least 30 years old. And yet all 4 of
these languages, under certain scenarios, have productivity problems.


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Default Re: Data Manipulation Programming Languages - 11-27-2007 , 09:39 PM






Robert <irishhacker (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:426e8c3d-c757-4630-9b2e-
30f1515cbacb (AT) s12g2000prg (DOT) googlegroups.com:

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DATA MANIPULATION PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES
& your point is exactly WHAT?


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Default Re: Data Manipulation Programming Languages - 11-29-2007 , 12:03 PM



On 28.11.2007 04:39, Ana C. Dent wrote:
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Robert <irishhacker (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:426e8c3d-c757-4630-9b2e-
30f1515cbacb (AT) s12g2000prg (DOT) googlegroups.com:

DATA MANIPULATION PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES

& your point is exactly WHAT?
That was exactly my question. Maybe it drowned in whiskey... :-)

robert


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