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what is the best web-based ad hoc report tool?
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Re: what is the best web-based ad hoc report tool? -
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Joerg Narr <n_o_s_p_a_m_joerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjk4re$2nu$2 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... The only good web-based ad hoc report tool is a dead web-based ad hoc report tool ;-) Not correct. It always depends on the user requirements and if a company is looking for an ad-hoc reporting tool - not analysis - there are tools available that can meet a lot of requirements. A lot of requirements indeed, but usability is not one of them. |
like BO Web Intelligence, Cognos Query Studio, Brio and others? They are
developed for the casual user and offer limited analytic functionality.
Sometimes exactly the functionality end users need besides providing a good
usability. Most of the tools use DHTML and offer a lot of the functionality
that is provided by full-client tools. I don't want to start a discussion on
security related issues though, since these issues can be managed.
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Have you ever thought of maintaining a 1.000+ PC site where you have to install the software on any PC? If you don't have automated configuration management for a 1000+ PC site you are in need of different management, not another tool. |
to, to start looking for a new management. Have you ever heard of organic
growth of an organisation? Real life sites are not as easy to maintain as
theory might make you believe.
Kind regards,
Joerg
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I am not sure how much true exposure you have had to web based reporting tools in academia but many of the desktop clients out there offer to much complexity for business users and a simplified web front-end offers an interface that they all already partially familiar with. One of big benefits of web based reporting tools is that they tend to built upon an open API which allows business to configure or customize the front-end to fit a common enterprise look and feel. Stephan Eggermont <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> wrote The only good web-based ad hoc report tool is a dead web-based ad hoc report tool ;-) Usability of web-based tools is not impressive, should therefore be limited to incidental use. Stephan |
Hello - We have developed a .NET and XML based Ad Hoc Report Builder
for endusers. http://www.logixml.com/products/Repo...tDev_adhoc.htm
It is priced at $5,000 per server for unlimited users.
Thanks
Bill Kotraba
LogiXML
bill.kotraba (AT) logixml (DOT) com
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Dear Stephan, not tu tussle, just to tie things straight: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjnah5$2mg$1 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... Joerg Narr <n_o_s_p_a_m_joerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjk4re$2nu$2 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... The only good web-based ad hoc report tool is a dead web-based ad hoc report tool ;-) Not correct. It always depends on the user requirements and if a company is looking for an ad-hoc reporting tool - not analysis - there are tools available that can meet a lot of requirements. A lot of requirements indeed, but usability is not one of them. Have you ever had a chance to look at new Web based ad-hoc reporting tools like BO Web Intelligence, Cognos Query Studio, Brio and others? They are developed for the casual user and offer limited analytic functionality. Sometimes exactly the functionality end users need besides providing a good usability. Most of the tools use DHTML and offer a lot of the functionality that is provided by full-client tools. I don't want to start a discussion on security related issues though, since these issues can be managed. Have you ever thought of maintaining a 1.000+ PC site where you have to install the software on any PC? If you don't have automated configuration management for a 1000+ PC site you are in need of different management, not another tool. You are right. I will recommend all the clients I was offering consulting to, to start looking for a new management. Have you ever heard of organic growth of an organisation? Real life sites are not as easy to maintain as theory might make you believe. Kind regards, Joerg |
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you forgot the newest cognos offering. ReportNet. It provides more functionality than almost all client based tools and is 100% web based (other than the modelling portion) ya |
ReportNet which is accompanied with Report Studio the professional report
painting and creation tool.
J.
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"Joerg Narr" <n_o_s_p_a_m_joerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bjp9gg$l7ieu$1 (AT) ID-25239 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de... Dear Stephan, not tu tussle, just to tie things straight: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjnah5$2mg$1 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... Joerg Narr <n_o_s_p_a_m_joerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjk4re$2nu$2 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... The only good web-based ad hoc report tool is a dead web-based ad hoc report tool ;-) Not correct. It always depends on the user requirements and if a company is looking for an ad-hoc reporting tool - not analysis - there are tools available that can meet a lot of requirements. A lot of requirements indeed, but usability is not one of them. Have you ever had a chance to look at new Web based ad-hoc reporting tools like BO Web Intelligence, Cognos Query Studio, Brio and others? They are developed for the casual user and offer limited analytic functionality. Sometimes exactly the functionality end users need besides providing a good usability. Most of the tools use DHTML and offer a lot of the functionality that is provided by full-client tools. I don't want to start a discussion on security related issues though, since these issues can be managed. Have you ever thought of maintaining a 1.000+ PC site where you have to install the software on any PC? If you don't have automated configuration management for a 1000+ PC site you are in need of different management, not another tool. You are right. I will recommend all the clients I was offering consulting to, to start looking for a new management. Have you ever heard of organic growth of an organisation? Real life sites are not as easy to maintain as theory might make you believe. Kind regards, Joerg |
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"ya" <john (AT) doe (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bxBab.503748$4UE.41001 (AT) news01 (DOT) bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com... you forgot the newest cognos offering. ReportNet. It provides more functionality than almost all client based tools and is 100% web based (other than the modelling portion) ya This is true and Query Studio is the ad hoc reporting tool from Cognos ReportNet which is accompanied with Report Studio the professional report painting and creation tool. J. "Joerg Narr" <n_o_s_p_a_m_joerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bjp9gg$l7ieu$1 (AT) ID-25239 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de... Dear Stephan, not tu tussle, just to tie things straight: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjnah5$2mg$1 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... Joerg Narr <n_o_s_p_a_m_joerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:bjk4re$2nu$2 (AT) news (DOT) tue.nl... The only good web-based ad hoc report tool is a dead web-based ad hoc report tool ;-) Not correct. It always depends on the user requirements and if a company is looking for an ad-hoc reporting tool - not analysis - there are tools available that can meet a lot of requirements. A lot of requirements indeed, but usability is not one of them. Have you ever had a chance to look at new Web based ad-hoc reporting tools like BO Web Intelligence, Cognos Query Studio, Brio and others? They are developed for the casual user and offer limited analytic functionality. Sometimes exactly the functionality end users need besides providing a good usability. Most of the tools use DHTML and offer a lot of the functionality that is provided by full-client tools. I don't want to start a discussion on security related issues though, since these issues can be managed. Have you ever thought of maintaining a 1.000+ PC site where you have to install the software on any PC? If you don't have automated configuration management for a 1000+ PC site you are in need of different management, not another tool. You are right. I will recommend all the clients I was offering consulting to, to start looking for a new management. Have you ever heard of organic growth of an organisation? Real life sites are not as easy to maintain as theory might make you believe. Kind regards, Joerg |
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