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Default Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-14-2004 , 12:37 AM






I'm interested in the strengths & weaknesses of Reporting Services &
Crystal Reports.
What other reporting front-ends are there?

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Nigel Pendse
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-14-2004 , 02:25 AM






"sean dixon" <dontcutandpaste (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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I'm interested in the strengths & weaknesses of Reporting Services &
Crystal Reports.
What other reporting front-ends are there?
Actuate, Cognos ReportNet, Hyperion SQR, MicroStrategy Report Services.




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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-15-2004 , 04:38 AM



dynaSight

http://www.dynasight.com


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Joerg Narr
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-16-2004 , 06:00 AM



"sean dixon" <dontcutandpaste (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:f4cd0180.0406132137.e16aa36 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
Quote:
I'm interested in the strengths & weaknesses of Reporting Services &
Crystal Reports.
What other reporting front-ends are there?
Hi Sean,

Crystal Reports in my oppinion is one of the leading tools for highly
formatted reports. If it comes to Business Intelligence Reporting where you
might wish to implement cross tab reports and flexible reports Crystal
Reports is not the tool of choice. The latter is slightly better implemented
in MS RS although it is obvious that Crystal Decisions had great influence
on the design of MS RS - which is in some cases a pity. In terms of layout
and formatting the report authoring tool (CR) is lightyears ahead of MS'
Visual Studio. This situation might change as soon as more vendors provide
tools that are compatible to MS RS or when ActiveViews is incorporated.

So: If you mainly have static reports and want to incorporate these reports
in an other portal than Sharepoint then CR might be your choice. If you need
more flexible reporting MS RS might be better suited although it is a V1
product and presently shows only limited functionality in its report
creation tool.

One more remark: Forget arcplan if you try to implement a standard
reporting. dynaSight is an excellent tool if it comes to the creation of
dashboards or flexible applications for displaying BSCs or KPIs, but cannot
compete with CR or even MS RS if it comes to reporting. This requires though
that you are sure about your requirements.

Kind regards,

Jörg





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sean dixon
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-16-2004 , 03:20 PM



So,

1. RS can have drill-down/up but CR can't?
2. CR are easier to create/maintain than RS?
3. Why forget ArcPlan?

Is "V1" a German term?
And what is BSC's?


"Joerg Narr" <n_o_spa_mjoerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"sean dixon" <dontcutandpaste (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:f4cd0180.0406132137.e16aa36 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I'm interested in the strengths & weaknesses of Reporting Services &
Crystal Reports.
What other reporting front-ends are there?

Hi Sean,

Crystal Reports in my oppinion is one of the leading tools for highly
formatted reports. If it comes to Business Intelligence Reporting where you
might wish to implement cross tab reports and flexible reports Crystal
Reports is not the tool of choice. The latter is slightly better implemented
in MS RS although it is obvious that Crystal Decisions had great influence
on the design of MS RS - which is in some cases a pity. In terms of layout
and formatting the report authoring tool (CR) is lightyears ahead of MS'
Visual Studio. This situation might change as soon as more vendors provide
tools that are compatible to MS RS or when ActiveViews is incorporated.

So: If you mainly have static reports and want to incorporate these reports
in an other portal than Sharepoint then CR might be your choice. If you need
more flexible reporting MS RS might be better suited although it is a V1
product and presently shows only limited functionality in its report
creation tool.

One more remark: Forget arcplan if you try to implement a standard
reporting. dynaSight is an excellent tool if it comes to the creation of
dashboards or flexible applications for displaying BSCs or KPIs, but cannot
compete with CR or even MS RS if it comes to reporting. This requires though
that you are sure about your requirements.

Kind regards,

Jörg

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minimax
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-17-2004 , 02:24 AM



@Jörg: Sean hasn't mentioned his requirements.
So why will you know, what the best product will be ???
Here, nobody was up to now arrogantly enough to name the best solution,
because nobody knows the requirements.

In expectation of a funny next BARC-study...

Thomas Weiser

// this is my personal opinion, it may differ from the opinion of my company //

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Marco Groeneveld
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-17-2004 , 09:44 AM



Hi,

Please visit our website: www.gmsbv.nl and download the free 90-day
trial of Report Portal. We are 100% sure you will be satsfied with
this great Reporting solution with a great price/quality ! You can
even add Panorama Novaview 4.0 as the Adhoc OLAP web frontend in the
Report Portal.

Regards, Marco

minimax (AT) dynasight (DOT) net (minimax) wrote in message news:<535cb871.0406162324.11633e0c (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...
Quote:
@Jörg: Sean hasn't mentioned his requirements.
So why will you know, what the best product will be ???
Here, nobody was up to now arrogantly enough to name the best solution,
because nobody knows the requirements.

In expectation of a funny next BARC-study...

Thomas Weiser

// this is my personal opinion, it may differ from the opinion of my company //

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RMRose
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-19-2004 , 08:55 PM



This is not a forum for vendors to blantantly advertise and spam
subscribers. This is to discuss issues and provide some guidance. Please try
to be less blatantly commercial... Many subscribers represent vendors here.
If you start trating this newsgroup as a marketing board, all the vendors
will jump in just to get equal time and it will be useless to everyone.

You can, howver, discuss the technical merits of your approach.


"Marco Groeneveld" <olap (AT) gmsbv (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
Hi,

Please visit our website: www.gmsbv.nl and download the free 90-day
trial of Report Portal. We are 100% sure you will be satsfied with
this great Reporting solution with a great price/quality ! You can
even add Panorama Novaview 4.0 as the Adhoc OLAP web frontend in the
Report Portal.

Regards, Marco

minimax (AT) dynasight (DOT) net (minimax) wrote in message
news:<535cb871.0406162324.11633e0c (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>...
@Jörg: Sean hasn't mentioned his requirements.
So why will you know, what the best product will be ???
Here, nobody was up to now arrogantly enough to name the best solution,
because nobody knows the requirements.

In expectation of a funny next BARC-study...

Thomas Weiser

// this is my personal opinion, it may differ from the opinion of my
company //




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Joerg Narr
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 06-22-2004 , 02:50 AM



"sean dixon" <dontcutandpaste (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:f4cd0180.0406160745.68c19246 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
Quote:
So,

1. RS can have drill-down/up but CR can't?
2. CR are easier to create/maintain than RS?
3. Why forget ArcPlan?

Is "V1" a German term?
And what is BSC's?

Sean, sorry for the abbreviations. Regarding your questions:

1. CR does provide drill-functionality just along the row-axis within groups
or similar grouping fields. RS for instance also provide flexible
cross-table reports with little pluses (+) to drill within reports.
2. I wouldn't agree that CR is easier to maintain than RS but it is much
more powerful at the moment by providing a much better report creation tool
and a more mature report distribution means. RS might still be the
appropriate reporting platform if your requirements are moderate.
3. As I improvidently rude (sorry, Thomas) explained: arcplan's dynaSight is
a development environment for the creation of management dashboards,
MIS-screens - you name it - but not of structured, distributed and printable
reports. You might still be very impressed by dynaSight, but it isn't a
reporting tool like CR and RS. In any case you should gather your users'
requirements in order to provide the appropriate solution.

V1 means Version 1. BSC is the abbreviation of Balanced Scorecard.

Kind regards,

Joerg




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bi_explorer
 
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Default Re: Reporting Services & Crystal Reports - 07-05-2004 , 10:34 AM



Hi experts,

I'm considering migrating my crystal reports into MSRS to cut down the
(high licence) costs. Could you pls suggest me if its a right
decision. My reports in crystal reports are very complex in nature and
are data driven.

For example, one of my crystal report

a) displays a blob (binary large object) - pic of the user
b) report fields are derived from a Stored Procedure
c) 3 level grouping (grouping on column a, then column b and then
column c)
d) has a lot of computed fields (with IF ELSE clauses)
e) has 4 subreports (which are highly formatted - layout, field
arrangement etc)


Can I achieve all the above in one report in MSRS? Pls do suggest.

Thanks,



"Joerg Narr" <n_o_spa_mjoerg_narr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"sean dixon" <dontcutandpaste (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:f4cd0180.0406160745.68c19246 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
So,

1. RS can have drill-down/up but CR can't?
2. CR are easier to create/maintain than RS?
3. Why forget ArcPlan?

Is "V1" a German term?
And what is BSC's?


Sean, sorry for the abbreviations. Regarding your questions:

1. CR does provide drill-functionality just along the row-axis within groups
or similar grouping fields. RS for instance also provide flexible
cross-table reports with little pluses (+) to drill within reports.
2. I wouldn't agree that CR is easier to maintain than RS but it is much
more powerful at the moment by providing a much better report creation tool
and a more mature report distribution means. RS might still be the
appropriate reporting platform if your requirements are moderate.
3. As I improvidently rude (sorry, Thomas) explained: arcplan's dynaSight is
a development environment for the creation of management dashboards,
MIS-screens - you name it - but not of structured, distributed and printable
reports. You might still be very impressed by dynaSight, but it isn't a
reporting tool like CR and RS. In any case you should gather your users'
requirements in order to provide the appropriate solution.

V1 means Version 1. BSC is the abbreviation of Balanced Scorecard.

Kind regards,

Joerg

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