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Weeks
 
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Default Applix TM1.. Is it good ? - 07-28-2003 , 06:13 PM







Hi,

who know Applix TM1 and an équivalent...?

But less expansive...

Thanks in advance.

Weeks

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Howard Taylor [O2OLAP]
 
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Default Re: Applix TM1.. Is it good ? - 07-28-2003 , 11:47 PM






Weeks

Have a look at www.o2olap.com. O2OLAP for Excel works with Microsoft's
Analysis Services. Signup for one of our online real-time demonstrations.

My background!. I took TM1 to the UK in 1991 and by 1996 had 75% of the UK
market.

Regards
Howard



"Weeks" <weeks (AT) freesurf (DOT) fr> wrote

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Hi,

who know Applix TM1 and an équivalent...?

But less expansive...

Thanks in advance.

Weeks



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John Keeley
 
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Default Re: Applix TM1.. Is it good ? - 07-29-2003 , 05:15 AM



Howards' O2OLAP is a front-end for Analysis Services, TM1 is an OLAP
server & front-end.
AS is an alternative to TM1.
If you do want a TM1 like OLAP server the other alternatives are MIS
Alea (www.misag.com) & PowerOLAP (www.olap.com)

Having used TM1 before I recommend it.
Lets hope that Applix start to look after it better now.

Regards,

John
(www.a-la-li-la.org)

"Howard Taylor [O2OLAP]" <Howard.Taylor (AT) o2olap (DOT) com> wrote

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Weeks

Have a look at www.o2olap.com. O2OLAP for Excel works with Microsoft's
Analysis Services. Signup for one of our online real-time demonstrations.

My background!. I took TM1 to the UK in 1991 and by 1996 had 75% of the UK
market.

Regards
Howard



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Hi,

who know Applix TM1 and an équivalent...?

But less expansive...

Thanks in advance.

Weeks

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Nigel Pendse
 
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Default Re: Applix TM1.. Is it good ? - 07-29-2003 , 05:36 AM



There's yet another member of the TM1 'family', proCube. This is a spin-off
from PowerOLAP, and has recently got some financial backing:
http://www.satorigroupinc.com/satori_solution.asp

All four of these OLAP engines share the same philosophy, as the other three
are all, in one sense or another, TM1 copies, having been developed by
former TM1 distributors who fell out with Applix or Sinper (which is also
Howard's background). That is, they are all intended primarily for planning
apps, run in RAM and (mainly) use Excel add-ins as their front-ends. Because
they run in RAM, they are very fast (much faster than Analysis Services or
Essbase), but also limited in their data capacity.

Nigel Pendse
OLAP Solutions
http://www.olapreport.com


"John Keeley" <duvinrouge (AT) servihoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Howards' O2OLAP is a front-end for Analysis Services, TM1 is an OLAP
server & front-end.
AS is an alternative to TM1.
If you do want a TM1 like OLAP server the other alternatives are MIS
Alea (www.misag.com) & PowerOLAP (www.olap.com)

Having used TM1 before I recommend it.
Lets hope that Applix start to look after it better now.

Regards,

John
(www.a-la-li-la.org)

"Howard Taylor [O2OLAP]" <Howard.Taylor (AT) o2olap (DOT) com> wrote

Weeks

Have a look at www.o2olap.com. O2OLAP for Excel works with Microsoft's
Analysis Services. Signup for one of our online real-time
demonstrations.

My background!. I took TM1 to the UK in 1991 and by 1996 had 75% of the
UK
market.

Regards
Howard



"Weeks" <weeks (AT) freesurf (DOT) fr> wrote in message
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Hi,

who know Applix TM1 and an équivalent...?

But less expansive...

Thanks in advance.

Weeks



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Howard Taylor [O2OLAP]
 
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Default Re: Applix TM1.. Is it good ? - 07-29-2003 , 09:27 AM



Nigel

I need to correct and extend a few statements you have made in your
contribution.

Nigel Wrote: > All four of these OLAP engines share the same philosophy, as
the other three are all, in one sense or another, TM1 copies, having been
developed by former TM1 distributors.

Quote:
Howard: O2OLAP has new philosophies and uses techniques not used by TM1
and probably not by the other products detailed in this thread.O2OLAP does
have the option to use a similar philosophy but this is not optimal. The
platform of choice for O2OLAP for Excel is Microsoft's Analysis Services as
the data remains "OPEN" within the Microsoft environment. The O2OLAP browser
and development environment may however get extended to other platforms in
the future.
Quote:
Howard: With respects to the phrase "TM1 copies", techniques have moved
between the companies you are talking about and were not all developed by
Applix. As detailed above, O2OLAP employs techniques not being used by
Applix.

Nigel Wrote: > ... TM1 distributors who fell out with Applix or Sinper
(which is also Howard's background).

Quote:
Howard: I chose to let my Applix contract expire with Applix when I saw
the Microsoft SQL Server & Analysis Services 2000 Beta in April 1999. Up
until this time, the MS product was not an option for us. Applix could have
been a far larger company if they had done things differently. Former
partners, clients and individuals have moved on since then. So has the OLAP
industry. A discussion group on the internet continually confirms our OLAP
direction of investment.

Nigel Wrote: > ... That is, they are all intended primarily for planning>
apps, run in RAM and (mainly) use Excel add-ins as their front-ends.

Quote:
Howard: O2OLAP caters for planning, budgeting, forecasting, allocations,
data collection, browsing, object management, EIS development and more,
within the Microsoft Analysis Services environment. O2OLAP works off the
Microsoft Analysis Services engine and employs techniques to optimise the
performance, data capture and data browsing within the Microsoft
environment.

Nigel Wrote: Because they run in RAM, they are very fast (much faster than
Analysis Services or Essbase), but also limited in their data capacity.

Quote:
Howard: O2OLAP's data capacity is limited to that of the Microsoft's
Analysis Services. With respects to the comment about fast, MS AS is fast if
tuned in the right way and if the right techniques are used. This is the
same for most OLAP products on the market. You could compare the products
with an equal data set and I think you would be very surprised at the
results. As I mentioned, O2OLAP uses new techniques which I believe are
faster than TM1. I believe the next release of the MS AS engine will be even
faster than it currently is and hopefully MS will take on some of our and
other user suggestions for their engine.

In my opinion, the MS platform is the only one to be on as the data is
"OPEN" within the Microsoft environment. Users will also have a far wider
choice of products and solutions to select from in the long run for this
environment.

Howard Taylor
O2OLAP Limited
www.o2olap.com



"Nigel Pendse" <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
There's yet another member of the TM1 'family', proCube. This is a
spin-off
from PowerOLAP, and has recently got some financial backing:
http://www.satorigroupinc.com/satori_solution.asp

All four of these OLAP engines share the same philosophy, as the other
three
are all, in one sense or another, TM1 copies, having been developed by
former TM1 distributors who fell out with Applix or Sinper (which is also
Howard's background). That is, they are all intended primarily for
planning
apps, run in RAM and (mainly) use Excel add-ins as their front-ends.
Because
they run in RAM, they are very fast (much faster than Analysis Services or
Essbase), but also limited in their data capacity.

Nigel Pendse
OLAP Solutions
http://www.olapreport.com


"John Keeley" <duvinrouge (AT) servihoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:542fe31c.0307290215.7be5ccb3 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
Howards' O2OLAP is a front-end for Analysis Services, TM1 is an OLAP
server & front-end.
AS is an alternative to TM1.
If you do want a TM1 like OLAP server the other alternatives are MIS
Alea (www.misag.com) & PowerOLAP (www.olap.com)

Having used TM1 before I recommend it.
Lets hope that Applix start to look after it better now.

Regards,

John
(www.a-la-li-la.org)

"Howard Taylor [O2OLAP]" <Howard.Taylor (AT) o2olap (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Weeks

Have a look at www.o2olap.com. O2OLAP for Excel works with Microsoft's
Analysis Services. Signup for one of our online real-time
demonstrations.

My background!. I took TM1 to the UK in 1991 and by 1996 had 75% of
the
UK
market.

Regards
Howard



"Weeks" <weeks (AT) freesurf (DOT) fr> wrote in message
news:3f259196$0$24796$626a54ce (AT) news (DOT) free.fr...

Hi,

who know Applix TM1 and an équivalent...?

But less expansive...

Thanks in advance.

Weeks





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Joerg Narr
 
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Default Re: Applix TM1.. Is it good ? - 08-01-2003 , 02:43 AM



"Weeks" <weeks (AT) freesurf (DOT) fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quote:
Hi,

who know Applix TM1 and an équivalent...?

But less expansive...

Thanks in advance.

Weeks
Hi Weeks,

Is it good? - It denpends on what you want to do with it. It is in fact a
multidimensional data base that can be administred in a user environment
rather than Microsoft Analysis Services which need more IT know-how.

Without further knowledge of your requirements (user and IT requirements) it
is too vague to answer your question appropriately.

There might be in fact cheaper solutions than TM1, depending on the amount
of users your site will have. Give more information.

Kind regards,

Joerg




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