dbTalk Databases Forums  

3 Terabyte data warehouse system requirement

comp.databases.olap comp.databases.olap


Discuss 3 Terabyte data warehouse system requirement in the comp.databases.olap forum.



Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old   
bucknuggets@yahoo.com
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: 3 Terabyte data warehouse system requirement - 02-15-2005 , 05:31 PM






Quote:
Analysis Services stores data a lot more efficiently than relational
databases
do, even if you load all the row-level detail into the cube, which is
Quote:
unlikely
But I think that's related to the questions that need to be asked: will
the queries be heavily-hitting the details? How much will the data
churn? 10 million rows / day? etc, etc.

At least before you spend several million in hardware. Again, a series
of prototypes would be invaluable to eliminating risks stemming from
these unknowns, or possibly-changing answers.

buck



Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old   
Nigel Pendse
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: 3 Terabyte data warehouse system requirement - 02-15-2005 , 05:59 PM






<bucknuggets (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Analysis Services stores data a lot more efficiently than relational
databases
do, even if you load all the row-level detail into the cube, which is
unlikely

But I think that's related to the questions that need to be asked:
will the queries be heavily-hitting the details? How much will the
data churn? 10 million rows / day? etc, etc.

At least before you spend several million in hardware. Again, a
series of prototypes would be invaluable to eliminating risks
stemming from these unknowns, or possibly-changing answers.
Yes, I agree; it's just that you ask a different set of questions if
it's a MOLAP solution, and test different scenarios. You certainly don't
breeze into an app of this size with as little information as the OP
provided.




Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old   
Stephan Eggermont
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: 3 Terabyte data warehouse system requirement - 02-16-2005 , 04:51 AM



Nigel Pendse <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
bucknuggets (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
hmm, I've never heard of a 3 tb molap cube, let alone it responding
very quickly.

The data would get a lot more compact with MOLAP storage -- typically
one could expect between a four- and ten-fold contraction.
The problem is that the contraction is very dependent on the dimensional
model. And a 300 GByte MOLAP cube still won't fit in ram on a current
machine.

Stephan



Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old   
Nigel Pendse
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: 3 Terabyte data warehouse system requirement - 02-16-2005 , 05:51 AM



"Stephan Eggermont" <stephan (AT) stack (DOT) nl> wrote

Quote:
Nigel Pendse <nigelp.nospam (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:
bucknuggets (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
hmm, I've never heard of a 3 tb molap cube, let alone it responding
very quickly.

The data would get a lot more compact with MOLAP storage -- typically
one could expect between a four- and ten-fold contraction.

The problem is that the contraction is very dependent on the
dimensional model. And a 300 GByte MOLAP cube still won't fit in ram
on a current machine.
Most MOLAP cubes don't fit in RAM -- why should this be a problem with
Analysis Services? Only a few OLAP servers, like TM1 and Alea, require
OLAP cubes to fit into RAM. Analysis Services cubes can be far larger
than the available RAM.




Reply With Quote
Reply




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.