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Wolfgang Keller
 
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Default .net persistence options? - 12-01-2003 , 03:10 PM






Hi,
just had a quick browse for what's going on in .net persistence for C#
and would like to see whether there is more?

what I saw was basically
* Pragmatier for VB.NET.net and C#
* FastObjects for C#
* ObjectSpaces
* a db4o port announced ...

Are there any more serious persistence products than that in the .NET
arena or is that it?

Thanks, Wolfgang

PS: I'm not counting JDBC similar stuff like ADO.NET but I'm interested
in
stuff that looks more similar to transparent persistence suites from the
Java side
like JDO, Hibernate and the like
PS2: Please no discussion that JDO is not transparent :-) ...
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Scott Bellware
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options? - 12-01-2003 , 03:36 PM






Take a look at the Tools List at http://groups.msn.com/DotNetPersistence

There are generators on the list as well as frameworks, but you should be
able to get an idea of what's out there.



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Carl Rosenberger
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options? - 12-02-2003 , 06:06 AM



Wolfgang Keller wrote:
Quote:
just had a quick browse for what's going on in .net persistence for C#
and would like to see whether there is more?

what I saw was basically
* a db4o port announced ...

Hi Wolfgang,

db4o for .NET has been released in the meanwhile.

It comes with exactly the same functionality as our Java version:

- No enhancer, no byte-code-engineering, simply store objects as
they are, with one line of code:
ObjectContainer#set(yourOwnComplexObjectHere);

- Support for all types available on the .NET platform, including
structs and Collections.

- Classes are analysed with reflection during runtime. Changes
to the class scheme are detected automatically and you can continue
to work with the same database file, without a reorganisation run.

- Query-By-Example and S.O.D.A. object query interface.

- Client/Server functionality, ACID transactions.


db4o for .NET comes as a 225 kB DLL and can be used from all
..NET languages.

It can also be run on the CompactFramework (PocketPC, Windows CE,
Windows Mobile 2003).

A trial version is available for download on our website:
http://www.db4o.com


Kind regards,
Carl
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db4o - database for objects - http://www.db4o.com




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Wolfgang Keller
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options? - 12-02-2003 , 09:33 AM



Thanks Scott,
I had seen it .. my knowledge about PowerTier having a C# version
now is from that site
For those of us, who read french there's also another interesting
one, which is http://dotnetguru.org/ who have sections on persistence
and also ObjectSpaces
Cheers, Wolfgang

"Scott Bellware" <s@s.s> wrote

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Take a look at the Tools List at http://groups.msn.com/DotNetPersistence

There are generators on the list as well as frameworks, but you should be
able to get an idea of what's out there.

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Gerd Nachtsheim
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options? - 12-02-2003 , 10:44 AM



Wolfgang Keller wrote:

Quote:
Hi,
just had a quick browse for what's going on in .net persistence for C#
and would like to see whether there is more?

what I saw was basically
* Pragmatier for VB.NET.net and C#
* FastObjects for C#
* ObjectSpaces
[...]

<http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html>

might have what you are looking for


Gerd
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Kaz Nakao
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options? - 12-03-2003 , 12:41 AM



Wolfgang Keller <wk (AT) objectarchitects (DOT) de> wrote

Quote:
Hi,
just had a quick browse for what's going on in .net persistence for C#
and would like to see whether there is more?

what I saw was basically
* Pragmatier for VB.NET.net and C#
* FastObjects for C#
* ObjectSpaces
* a db4o port announced ...

Are there any more serious persistence products than that in the .NET
arena or is that it?
Hello Wolfgang,

Matisse ( http://www.matisse.com ) has been supporting C# and VB.NET
for more than a year and a half.

- Provide both object based interface, and SQL interface with
ADO.NET

- ADO.NET is extended so that SQL queries can directly return
objects without o/r mapping

- Support server-side method execution

- ACID transactions, client/server, object caching both in client
and server, and more

--
Kazuhiro Nakao
http://www.matisse.com
"Matisse, the Post-Relational SQL Database"


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Bob Badour
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options? - 12-03-2003 , 08:26 AM



"Kaz Nakao" <kazuhiro_nakao (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
Kazuhiro Nakao
http://www.matisse.com
"Matisse, the Post-Relational SQL Database"
That's an interesting .sig line. How do you justify it? How is Matisse's
logical data model is as simple and as powerful as the relational model?




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Tim F. Fischer
 
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Default Re: .net persistence options - for pessimistic locking - 12-03-2003 , 10:28 AM



Hi Wolfgang,

we just released tangible architect which offers an option for a connected
architecture with pessimistic locking.

tangible architect is 100% VS.NET integrated and supports the UML.

You may want to check it out at www.tangible.de

Kind Regards

Tim.

"Wolfgang Keller" <wk (AT) objectarchitects (DOT) de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quote:
Hi,
just had a quick browse for what's going on in .net persistence for C#
and would like to see whether there is more?

what I saw was basically
* Pragmatier for VB.NET.net and C#
* FastObjects for C#
* ObjectSpaces
* a db4o port announced ...

Are there any more serious persistence products than that in the .NET
arena or is that it?

Thanks, Wolfgang

PS: I'm not counting JDBC similar stuff like ADO.NET but I'm interested
in
stuff that looks more similar to transparent persistence suites from the
Java side
like JDO, Hibernate and the like
PS2: Please no discussion that JDO is not transparent :-) ...
================================================== =====
War is Peace; Freedom Is Slavery; Ignorance Is Strength
*** GEORGE ORWELL! 1984 ***
================================================== =====





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Default Re: .net persistence options - for pessimistic locking - 12-04-2003 , 06:47 AM



Hi Tim!!!

can you please compare you application with EntityBroker (from
http://www.thona-consulting.com)?
Thomas from Thona Consulting can you also compare www.tangible.de
application with yours?


best regards,


gicio


"Tim F. Fischer" <tfischer (AT) se-consultant (DOT) de> wrote

Quote:
Hi Wolfgang,

we just released tangible architect which offers an option for a connected
architecture with pessimistic locking.

tangible architect is 100% VS.NET integrated and supports the UML.

You may want to check it out at www.tangible.de

Kind Regards

Tim.

"Wolfgang Keller" <wk (AT) objectarchitects (DOT) de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3FCBAE49.9F7C6E3 (AT) objectarchitects (DOT) de...
Hi,
just had a quick browse for what's going on in .net persistence for C#
and would like to see whether there is more?

what I saw was basically
* Pragmatier for VB.NET.net and C#
* FastObjects for C#
* ObjectSpaces
* a db4o port announced ...

Are there any more serious persistence products than that in the .NET
arena or is that it?

Thanks, Wolfgang

PS: I'm not counting JDBC similar stuff like ADO.NET but I'm interested
in
stuff that looks more similar to transparent persistence suites from the
Java side
like JDO, Hibernate and the like
PS2: Please no discussion that JDO is not transparent :-) ...
================================================== =====
War is Peace; Freedom Is Slavery; Ignorance Is Strength
*** GEORGE ORWELL! 1984 ***
================================================== =====







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