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Ruben Baumann
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 09:40 AM






<teddysnips (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Chuck Grimsby wrote:
CDMA is moderated by it's users.

And we do tend to jump on people who advertise here.
It's a long and honored tradition.

If you'd prefer not to run afoul of it, go elsewhere.

Sadly, teddysn.. forgot that another one of the rules is not to quote
the whole message, and give the advertiser another free round under
_their_ name.

I couldn't resist the play on ploko/plonk-o.

And Chuck, while we're talking about motes and planks, what about
top-posting? You forgot that one, bud.

Edward.
[bottom post snipped]

PUH-LEASE!, let's not start this religious argument all over again! This
has been hashed, over and over again in many newsgroups, and has led to
dozens and dozens of wasted time, bandwidth, and historical storage of
posts both pro and con and never a rock solid resolution. Kind of like THIS
thread? :-)

Rule of thumb, spend some time in whatever ng, and get a feel for the
preferences, then post accordingly. BUT, you'll NEVER make anyone happy, or
avoid this kind of BS.

Ruben




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teddysnips@hotmail.com
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 09:51 AM








Tim Marshall wrote:
[...] Edward, you've been on this newsgroup, how long?

The earliest post I could find under this monicker was Feb 21 2003, so
a little over two years. I've posted here before that under different
accounts, but I can't really be arsed to find a citation.

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Usenettiquette
arguments are very irritating and are most often caused by people coming
into a group and demanding the prevalent culture change. 8)
Not me. I'm demanding nothing. Have you read the whole thread? To
recap, Mike Olson comes on and advertises his wares. Free, but what
are you going to do? Well, what I did, which was to mention that CDMA
doesn't allow advertising. So Chuck gets on my case (quite rightly)
about quoting the whole message, giving the OP even more free
publicity. So I rejoined, in a very light-hearted manner, giving Chuck
some gyp about top-posting. Then Terry gets all antsy about my
response, so I give chase. Then you weigh in with your two pennorth.
Or cents.

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Top/Bottom posting is very often reflected by the group culture, though
of course the "default" is bottom (and my own preference). You'll find
in a lot of technical groups top posting is acceptable because of the
nature of one time replies and urgency of inquiries.
I'm cool with top-posting, though, like you, I prefer bottom-posting
(vide supra). I wasn't actually getting out of my pram about it, I was
just playing with Chuck. It all seems to be in danger of getting a bit
aerated.

Top post shmop post. As long as the info's accurate who cares?

Edward



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lylefair@yahoo.ca
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 10:29 AM



Impresses the hell out of me.

"The earliest post I could find under this monicker was Feb 21 2003
....."

Impresses the hell out of me.


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David W. Fenton
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 11:01 AM



"Ruben Baumann" <rynt (AT) yahoo9 (DOT) com> wrote in
news:3MWdnbi8Ra5KoC3fRVn-ug (AT) megapath (DOT) net:

Quote:
Rule of thumb, spend some time in whatever ng, and get a feel for
the preferences, then post accordingly. BUT, you'll NEVER make
anyone happy, or avoid this kind of BS.
Well, I think that's not really correct.

The way to keep everyone happy is to not post in a way that trips
the annoyance triggers of the people devoted to either of the two
alternatives:

1. top posters hate having to scroll past a whole boatload of text
to get to the actual response, so they post at the top.

2. bottom posters hate having the response at the top followed by a
boatload of text at the bottom, that they have to skim through to
figure out what the hell the top poster is talking about.

Note that there's a common trigger to the annoyance: the boatload of
quoted text.

Top posters won't mind a bottom post if the quote text is suitably
trimmed so they don't have to be inconvenienced by reading it or
scrolling past it.

Bottom posters won't mind a top post if the quoted text is succinct
and well-chosen and easily scanned to give the top reply context.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc


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Terry Kreft
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 11:27 AM



Well an uninformed lie will always do in place of the facts for some people.

Oh and BTW, I've "got it" for the last 25 or so years on usenet/janet etc,
have you got it that it's a pointless and silly waste of resource in a
technical group yet ?


--
Terry Kreft
MVP Microsoft Access


<teddysnips (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Terry Kreft wrote:
Actually the most annoying thing on usenet is top/bottom posting
arguments.

--
Terry Kreft
MVP Microsoft Access

Invariably caused by people top-posting. Never caused by people
bottom-posting. Do you get it yet?

Edward




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teddysnips@hotmail.com
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 01:38 PM





David W. Fenton wrote:
[...]
Quote:
Top posters won't mind a bottom post if the quote text is suitably
trimmed so they don't have to be inconvenienced by reading it or
scrolling past it.

Bottom posters won't mind a top post if the quoted text is succinct
and well-chosen and easily scanned to give the top reply context.
Hard to disagree with that.

Edward



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teddysnips@hotmail.com
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-15-2005 , 01:40 PM





Terry Kreft wrote:
Quote:
Well an uninformed lie will always do in place of the facts for some people.
What uninformed lie are you referring to, Terry?

Quote:
Oh and BTW, I've "got it" for the last 25 or so years on usenet/janet etc,
have you got it that it's a pointless and silly waste of resource in a
technical group yet ?
So why do you persist in wasting resources?

Edward



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Larry Linson
 
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Default Re: Free new language, IDE, & data-management system for Windows - 06-16-2005 , 11:21 PM



I find I am in agreement with Lyle on the subject of top versus bottom
posting.

Quote:
Impresses the hell out of me.

"The earliest post I could find under
this monicker was Feb 21 2003
...."

Impresses the hell out of me.
I find I am in agreement with Lyle on the subject of bottom versus top
posting.




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