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justaguy
 
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Default One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-24-2011 , 05:57 PM






Hi,

I'm a database guy but have barely used mySQL. What I intend to do is
this:
export an Access database with 10 to 15 tables (not much seed data
though) to mySQL on Mac.
Here, I have a bunch of questions.

a) Migration options and constraints (I'm on Windows OS)
option 1
download and install mySQL myself
export the db: Access db -> ODBC driver -> mySQL (for Windows)
generate ddl db script and export data dump script(s)

having someone with Mac to download & install mySQL for Mac
run the db scripts that I generated and create this database with
data on the mySQL for Mac server
(not sure how easy or difficult this process would be for a non-
techie Mac user...)

b) With regard to mySQL for Mac
1. Would Mac OS X ver. 10.6 (x86, 32-bit) work under Mac OS X 64 bit
as well?

2. Of DMG Archive and Compressed TAR, which one is easier for
installation?

c) Could mySQL for Mac installation be automated with an installation
script something?
Because this db is a component of a software package.

And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.

Thank you very much.

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The Natural Philosopher
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 05:29 AM






justaguy wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I'm a database guy but have barely used mySQL. What I intend to do is
this:
export an Access database with 10 to 15 tables (not much seed data
though) to mySQL on Mac.
Here, I have a bunch of questions.

a) Migration options and constraints (I'm on Windows OS)
option 1
download and install mySQL myself
export the db: Access db -> ODBC driver -> mySQL (for Windows)
generate ddl db script and export data dump script(s)

May be easier to export as CSV and import using LOAD command

Quote:
having someone with Mac to download & install mySQL for Mac
run the db scripts that I generated and create this database with
data on the mySQL for Mac server
(not sure how easy or difficult this process would be for a non-
techie Mac user...)

All mac users are non techie.

Quote:
b) With regard to mySQL for Mac
1. Would Mac OS X ver. 10.6 (x86, 32-bit) work under Mac OS X 64 bit
as well?

2. Of DMG Archive and Compressed TAR, which one is easier for
installation?

c) Could mySQL for Mac installation be automated with an installation
script something?
Because this db is a component of a software package.

And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.

Thank you very much.

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justaguy
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 11:54 AM



On Nov 25, 6:29*am, The Natural Philosopher <t... (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid>
wrote:
Quote:
justaguy wrote:
Hi,

I'm a database guy but have barely used mySQL. *What I intend to do is
this:
export an Access database with 10 to 15 tables (not much seed data
though) to mySQL on Mac.
Here, I have a bunch of questions.

a) Migration options and constraints (I'm on Windows OS)
option 1
*download and install mySQL myself
*export the db: Access db -> ODBC driver -> mySQL (for Windows)
*generate ddl db script and export data dump script(s)

May be easier to export as CSV and import using LOAD command

*having someone with Mac to download & install mySQL for Mac
*run the db scripts that I generated and create this database with
data on the mySQL for Mac server
*(not sure how easy or difficult this process would be for a non-
techie Mac user...)

All mac users are non techie.







b) *With regard to mySQL for Mac
1. Would Mac OS X ver. 10.6 (x86, 32-bit) work under Mac OS X 64 bit
as well?

2. *Of DMG Archive and Compressed TAR, which one is easier for
installation?

c) Could mySQL for Mac installation be automated with an installation
script something?
Because this db is a component of a software package.

And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.

Thank you very much.
"May be easier to export as CSV and import using LOAD command "
Sorry, this won't do it. The database would be used for data storage.

Thanks for the note tho.

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Lennart Jonsson
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 12:00 PM



On 2011-11-25 00:57, justaguy wrote:
[...]
Quote:
c) Could mySQL for Mac installation be automated with an installation
script something?
Because this db is a component of a software package.

If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql license
before bundling it with your application. I have never bundled anything
with mysql myself, so I not sure what it says exactly, but there have
been numerous discussions on this subject in the past. The license might
not be a problem for you, but better safe than sorry.


/Lennart

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The Natural Philosopher
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 01:29 PM



justaguy wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 25, 6:29 am, The Natural Philosopher <t... (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid
wrote:
justaguy wrote:
Hi,
I'm a database guy but have barely used mySQL. What I intend to do is
this:
export an Access database with 10 to 15 tables (not much seed data
though) to mySQL on Mac.
Here, I have a bunch of questions.
a) Migration options and constraints (I'm on Windows OS)
option 1
download and install mySQL myself
export the db: Access db -> ODBC driver -> mySQL (for Windows)
generate ddl db script and export data dump script(s)
May be easier to export as CSV and import using LOAD command

having someone with Mac to download & install mySQL for Mac
run the db scripts that I generated and create this database with
data on the mySQL for Mac server
(not sure how easy or difficult this process would be for a non-
techie Mac user...)
All mac users are non techie.







b) With regard to mySQL for Mac
1. Would Mac OS X ver. 10.6 (x86, 32-bit) work under Mac OS X 64 bit
as well?
2. Of DMG Archive and Compressed TAR, which one is easier for
installation?
c) Could mySQL for Mac installation be automated with an installation
script something?
Because this db is a component of a software package.
And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.
Thank you very much.

"May be easier to export as CSV and import using LOAD command "
Sorry, this won't do it. The database would be used for data storage.

I assumed that once the data transfer had been done Access would be
ditched..Do I understand you want to keep Access as a front end?

In which case the term is not 'export' in my book: Export is a once and
or all transfer of data into a different format.

which is easiest to load into a MySQL database using the LOAD command.

Quote:
Thanks for the note tho.

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justaguy
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 02:23 PM



On Nov 25, 1:00*pm, Lennart Jonsson <erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:
Quote:
On 2011-11-25 00:57, justaguy wrote:
[...]

c) Could mySQL for Mac installation be automated with an installation
script something?
Because this db is a component of a software package.

If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql license
before bundling it with your application. I have never bundled anything
with mysql myself, so I not sure what it says exactly, but there have
been numerous discussions on this subject in the past. The license might
not be a problem for you, but better safe than sorry.

/Lennart
"The license might not be a problem for you, but better safe than
sorry. "
Good thought. In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source...
I know Oracle bought it some time ago... but since it does not come
with any tools to perform database management tasks, it would be real
hard sell to market it as a commercial DBMS... wouldn't you agree?
Besides, even for Oracle itself, it is said 90% of its profit comes
from consulting fees.

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Erick T. Barkhuis
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 02:33 PM



justaguy:

Quote:
On Nov 25, 1:00*pm, Lennart Jonsson <erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql
license before bundling it with your application.


Good thought. In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source...
You appear to believe that an open source product can be integrated
into any software package without restrictions or costs.
Please reconsider, and refer to
http://mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.html as a starting point.
Chances are, that you need either pay for the product, or offer your
own package as open source software under GPL, too.

--
Erick

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justaguy
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 03:28 PM



On Nov 25, 3:33*pm, "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.use-... (AT) ardane (DOT) c.o.m>
wrote:
Quote:
justaguy:

On Nov 25, 1:00*pm, Lennart Jonsson <erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql
license *before bundling it with your application.

Good thought. *In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source...

You appear to believe that an open source product can be integrated
into any software package without restrictions or costs.
Please reconsider, and refer tohttp://mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.htmlas a starting point.
Chances are, that you need either pay for the product, or offer your
own package as open source software under GPL, too.

--
Erick
Thanks for the mySQL license info. It's absurd for such a non ANSI
'92 standard bare-bone database engine, with a big120+ MB file size,
Oracle is charging money for its use... probably I've wasted 4-5
hours.

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Kees Nuyt
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 04:45 PM



On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:57:42 -0800 (PST), justaguy
<lichunshen84 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.
http://www.sqlite.org/

Best regards,
--
( Kees Nuyt
)
c[_]

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justaguy
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 05:35 PM



On Nov 25, 5:45*pm, Kees Nuyt <k.n... (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.nl> wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:57:42 -0800 (PST), justaguy

lichunshe... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.

http://www.sqlite.org/

Best regards,
--
* ( Kees Nuyt
* )
c[_]
Yeah, I've taken at a good look at this guy as well. I can read C
code but compilation etc. is going to be a mess (believe me...). Just
curious, why don't they create some plain executable for Windows or
Mac or Linux (basic stuff) and make it configurable... sort of as
they did for command line utility...

Thanks tho.

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