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Jerry Stuckle
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 06:24 PM






On 11/25/2011 4:28 PM, justaguy wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 25, 3:33 pm, "Erick T. Barkhuis"<erick.use-... (AT) ardane (DOT) c.o.m
wrote:
justaguy:

On Nov 25, 1:00 pm, Lennart Jonsson<erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql
license before bundling it with your application.

Good thought. In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source...

You appear to believe that an open source product can be integrated
into any software package without restrictions or costs.
Please reconsider, and refer tohttp://mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.htmlas a starting point.
Chances are, that you need either pay for the product, or offer your
own package as open source software under GPL, too.

--
Erick

Thanks for the mySQL license info. It's absurd for such a non ANSI
'92 standard bare-bone database engine, with a big120+ MB file size,
Oracle is charging money for its use... probably I've wasted 4-5
hours.


That's not Oracle's doing. It's been like that since long before Oracle
bought MySQL.

It's not that unusual for open source products to require packages which
use them to be open source also. In fact, MySQL is a bit different in
that respect in that they allow you to use it in non-open source
products (albeit by paying a fee).g

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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-25-2011 , 07:28 PM






On Nov 25, 7:24*pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck... (AT) attglobal (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
On 11/25/2011 4:28 PM, justaguy wrote:









On Nov 25, 3:33 pm, "Erick T. Barkhuis"<erick.use-... (AT) ardane (DOT) c.o.m
wrote:
justaguy:

On Nov 25, 1:00 pm, Lennart Jonsson<erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql
license *before bundling it with your application.

Good thought. *In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source....

You appear to believe that an open source product can be integrated
into any software package without restrictions or costs.
Please reconsider, and refer tohttp://mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.htmlasa starting point.
Chances are, that you need either pay for the product, or offer your
own package as open source software under GPL, too.

--
Erick

Thanks for the mySQL license info. *It's absurd for such a non ANSI
'92 standard bare-bone database engine, with a big120+ MB file size,
Oracle is charging money for its use... probably I've wasted 4-5
hours.

That's not Oracle's doing. *It's been like that since long before Oracle
bought MySQL.

It's not that unusual for open source products to require packages which
use them to be open source also. *In fact, MySQL is a bit different in
that respect in that they allow you to use it in non-open source
products (albeit by paying a fee).g

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" paying a fee", do you have such an experience? If so could you
elaborate a bit? Our product is inexpensive, can't afford paying
mySQL a fortunate for this little thing... Thanks.

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Jerry Stuckle
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-26-2011 , 04:02 AM



On 11/25/2011 8:28 PM, justaguy wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 25, 7:24 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck... (AT) attglobal (DOT) net> wrote:
On 11/25/2011 4:28 PM, justaguy wrote:









On Nov 25, 3:33 pm, "Erick T. Barkhuis"<erick.use-... (AT) ardane (DOT) c.o.m
wrote:
justaguy:

On Nov 25, 1:00 pm, Lennart Jonsson<erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql
license before bundling it with your application.

Good thought. In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source...

You appear to believe that an open source product can be integrated
into any software package without restrictions or costs.
Please reconsider, and refer tohttp://mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.htmlasa starting point.
Chances are, that you need either pay for the product, or offer your
own package as open source software under GPL, too.

--
Erick

Thanks for the mySQL license info. It's absurd for such a non ANSI
'92 standard bare-bone database engine, with a big120+ MB file size,
Oracle is charging money for its use... probably I've wasted 4-5
hours.

That's not Oracle's doing. It's been like that since long before Oracle
bought MySQL.

It's not that unusual for open source products to require packages which
use them to be open source also. In fact, MySQL is a bit different in
that respect in that they allow you to use it in non-open source
products (albeit by paying a fee).g


" paying a fee", do you have such an experience? If so could you
elaborate a bit? Our product is inexpensive, can't afford paying
mySQL a fortunate for this little thing... Thanks.

Read the licensing information for MySQL. If you want a price, you'll
have to contact their sales department.

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Lennart Jonsson
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-26-2011 , 04:08 AM



On 2011-11-26 00:35, justaguy wrote:
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On Nov 25, 5:45 pm, Kees Nuyt <k.n... (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.nl> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:57:42 -0800 (PST), justaguy

lichunshe... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
And let me know if you know another simpler or easier option.

http://www.sqlite.org/

Best regards,
--
( Kees Nuyt
)
c[_]

Yeah, I've taken at a good look at this guy as well. I can read C
code but compilation etc. is going to be a mess (believe me...). Just
curious, why don't they create some plain executable for Windows or
Mac or Linux (basic stuff) and make it configurable... sort of as
they did for command line utility...

Might be worthwhile to have a look at db2-express:

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/.../download.html

There is a beta for mac-os, don't know the status though.

Free to develop, free to deploy, free to distribute. Downside is that it
will only use 2 processing cores and 2 GB of memory.

Oracle and sql-server also have express editions, but I could not find
mac versions for them (I did not expect to find one for sql-server).


/Lennart

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Peter H. Coffin
 
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Default Re: One MS Access db to mySQL on Mac - 11-26-2011 , 11:14 AM



On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:28:11 -0800 (PST), justaguy wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 25, 3:33?pm, "Erick T. Barkhuis" <erick.use-... (AT) ardane (DOT) c.o.m
wrote:
justaguy:

On Nov 25, 1:00?pm, Lennart Jonsson <erik.lennart.jons... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:
If you have not done so already I advise you to study the mysql
license ?before bundling it with your application.

Good thought. ?In the meantime, mySQL has always been open source...

You appear to believe that an open source product can be integrated
into any software package without restrictions or costs.
Please reconsider, and refer tohttp://mysql.com/about/legal/licensing/index.htmlas a starting point.
Chances are, that you need either pay for the product, or offer your
own package as open source software under GPL, too.

--
Erick

Thanks for the mySQL license info. It's absurd for such a non ANSI
'92 standard bare-bone database engine, with a big120+ MB file size,
Oracle is charging money for its use... probably I've wasted 4-5
hours.
Usual I Am Not A Lawyer coverage applies:

Typically, one can bypass this whole issue by not including the MySQL
installation with the package one distributes, and instead makes the
customer supply it via requirement. If your target market is "power
user" or above, it's not really a barrier to have to install MySQL
separately, and then run a couple of commands that you supply to
establish the initial credentials and databases for your application to
use.

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