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Richard
 
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Default Re: Old MySQL remnants shagging MySQL in Wampserver - 03-11-2010 , 07:48 PM






"The Natural Philosopher" <tnp (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid> wrote

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Richard wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" <tnp (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid> wrote in message
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Richard wrote:
OK .... so I have totally disinstalled previous implementations
of both Tomcat and MySQL.

I then deleted all the various folders they left behind.

Except (as I have now found out) there was a MySQL service left
defined (though non-working now) in the Services list.

This meant that after installing Wampserver, there were two MySQL
services (with different names).

I have tried to remove all trace of this spurious service, and it
no longer appears in the list of services.

I have even gone back to a restore point before I first installed
the previous MySQL - and then reinstalled Wampserver - but I
still get the same problem.

BUT .... Wampserver still can't run PHPmyAdmin and I can't get it
to run manually. I also can't run MySQL Console. After getting
past the root password prompt, I get a bleep and a message which
disappears with the console window before I can possibly read it
(great diagnotics!!).

ANY suggestions on what to do to get MySQL and phpMyAdmin working
please?


try a linux platform?

As in:
"If you cant find the problem, get a new computer" ?


As in, you can find the problem, but microsoft prevents you from
fixing it, so reinstall an operating system and since you have to do
that, why not put on one that actually works?

R.
Come on, come on!
Its not that bad

You know... the best thing to do if you want to run these kinds of
apps / servers on the Win box, is to strip it down to the very basics.
Remove as much Windows/ MS stuff as possible BEFORE you install.

It makes your life much easier.

MS is MS. They obviously want you to use their stuff, and thats what
they config/ prepare / update etc. it for.




No, I am not a fan. Of neither. Or any.

Although... I have a secret wish to run a Tandy Coco 2 as a webserver
....

R.

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A Watcher
 
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Default Re: Old MySQL remnants shagging MySQL in Wampserver - 03-11-2010 , 11:46 PM






Richard wrote:
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"A Watcher" <stocksami (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Richard wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" <tnp (AT) invalid (DOT) invalid> wrote in message
news:hn989v$6si$1 (AT) news (DOT) albasani.net...
Richard wrote:
OK .... so I have totally disinstalled previous implementations
of both Tomcat and MySQL.

I then deleted all the various folders they left behind.

Except (as I have now found out) there was a MySQL service left
defined (though non-working now) in the Services list.

This meant that after installing Wampserver, there were two MySQL
services (with different names).

I have tried to remove all trace of this spurious service, and it
no longer appears in the list of services.

I have even gone back to a restore point before I first installed
the previous MySQL - and then reinstalled Wampserver - but I
still get the same problem.

BUT .... Wampserver still can't run PHPmyAdmin and I can't get it
to run manually. I also can't run MySQL Console. After getting
past the root password prompt, I get a bleep and a message which
disappears with the console window before I can possibly read it
(great diagnotics!!).

ANY suggestions on what to do to get MySQL and phpMyAdmin working
please?

try a linux platform?
As in:
"If you cant find the problem, get a new computer" ?

R.
The problem is most likely the registry. With linux it is much
easier to search out and destroy remnants of old programs.

I dont agree... I still feel "clumsy" doing that on Linux... to me its
still a swamp
This "Registry" is not some magic thing ... its just a hierarchical
database of settings.

Most programs have their own install and uninstall that takes care of
all these things, so you almost never need to edit by hand.
And, there are utils that can help you if you dont really know what is
what.

MySQL doesnt write much to the registry AFAIK. The service should be
removed with the uninstall.

R.




Linux has a directory where all the startup stuff goes. Each app will
most likely have it's own script there. Even if you mess things up
there it's unlikely that you will totally hose the PC. With the
registry it's another matter.

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The Natural Philosopher
 
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Default Re: Old MySQL remnants shagging MySQL in Wampserver - 03-12-2010 , 02:52 AM



Richard wrote:

Quote:
You know... the best thing to do if you want to run these kinds of
apps / servers on the Win box, is to strip it down to the very basics.
Remove as much Windows/ MS stuff as possible BEFORE you install.

exactly. Like ALL of it.

Quote:
It makes your life much easier.

Exactly.

Quote:
MS is MS. They obviously want you to use their stuff,
So does the smack head peddling crack on my street corner.


and thats what
Quote:
they config/ prepare / update etc. it for.


Quote:



No, I am not a fan. Of neither. Or any.

Double negative? equals Positive?


Quote:
Although... I have a secret wish to run a Tandy Coco 2 as a webserver
I have a secret wish to gun down fat people in supermarkets, to save the
planet from people who can only consume.

But I keep it to myself.

Quote:
...

R.


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Peter H. Coffin
 
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Default Re: Old MySQL remnants shagging MySQL in Wampserver - 03-12-2010 , 10:59 AM



On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:46:06 -0800, A Watcher wrote:
Quote:
Linux has a directory where all the startup stuff goes. Each app will
most likely have it's own script there. Even if you mess things up
there it's unlikely that you will totally hose the PC. With the
registry it's another matter.
or it has a set of files that do that, or it could be in a directory
of configs for a superserver that monitors for connections and starts
the appropriate server, or that superserver could have a single config
somplace, and the some of those configs go into /etc/, /usr/local/etc,
/opt/etc, which can vary from one major release of a particular
distribution of linux to another, much less when going from RedHat to
RedHat EL to Fedora Core, or from Centos to Ubuntu. And sometimes you'll
have multiples of these going on because you've got a new release of the
OS, so bundled stuff goes in there, stuff that you installed on your
pre-upgrade system still uses the prior standard and there's no update
to that yet.

There's lots to complain about with regard to Windows software
management (specficially that it doesn't work as reliably as it should)
but trying to claim Linux's way of doing it is by any stretch more
*sensible* and understandable (much less, simpler) is just silly.

--
12. One of my advisors will be an average five-year-old child. Any
flaws in my plan that he is able to spot will be corrected before
implementation.
--Peter Anspach's list of things to do as an Evil Overlord

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The Natural Philosopher
 
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Default Re: Old MySQL remnants shagging MySQL in Wampserver - 03-12-2010 , 01:52 PM



Peter H. Coffin wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:46:06 -0800, A Watcher wrote:
Linux has a directory where all the startup stuff goes. Each app will
most likely have it's own script there. Even if you mess things up
there it's unlikely that you will totally hose the PC. With the
registry it's another matter.

or it has a set of files that do that, or it could be in a directory
of configs for a superserver that monitors for connections and starts
the appropriate server, or that superserver could have a single config
somplace, and the some of those configs go into /etc/, /usr/local/etc,
/opt/etc, which can vary from one major release of a particular
distribution of linux to another, much less when going from RedHat to
RedHat EL to Fedora Core, or from Centos to Ubuntu. And sometimes you'll
have multiples of these going on because you've got a new release of the
OS, so bundled stuff goes in there, stuff that you installed on your
pre-upgrade system still uses the prior standard and there's no update
to that yet.

There's lots to complain about with regard to Windows software
management (specficially that it doesn't work as reliably as it should)
but trying to claim Linux's way of doing it is by any stretch more
*sensible* and understandable (much less, simpler) is just silly.

No, I think he, and I'll endorse this - are saying that its ultimately
more ACCESSIBLE.

because its only files, not sections of a database, tools like find will
generally discover all instances of things called '*mysq*' and so on,
and you can remove them.

This isn't necessarily sweet, or speedy, but its better than the default
'reinstall windows' option which is generally the fastest way (sic!) to
repair a broked registry.

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